Orchipalar

Orchi's Blog would soon be updated on own journey of Collecting Vintage Rolex watches......

2011-12-22T08:47:00.000-08:00

Err Buddies...sorry for being absent NOT keeping this Blog updated in the last 20 months...or so.

Many things...good or bad...happy or sad...
interesting or otherwise...
had transpired in the course of Orchi's journey...
in this crazy hobby of collecting Vintage Rolex watches...

Any way...
there was an old comment from an Anonymous poster here...
who claims that Orchi had used VRF as template in this Blog...
NOT sure what he meant by it...

Other than often relating the relevant topics similarly posted in VRF...
Orchi fails to see how Orchi could be accused of using VRF as template...
of this Blog...

As the comments was posted by the Anonymous poster...
Orchi isn't able to contact him or her for further clarification...
to his claim...
So that comment of his or hers...has been deleted...

Another comment from *Philip* offered his comment on one of the topics here...
which was irrelevant...

Apparently he had created his own Blog dedicated in the honour of Orchi's journey...
in this Blog...
Mainly that Blog of his was aimed to discredit some of Orchi's personal credibility...integrity...
past experiences n the watches that Orchi had came across during Orchi's journey...

NOT sure what he had gained by doing so...
other than perhaps he needed to vent his anger at Orchi...

Oh well...the journey shall continue regardless...

Thanks for watching...

Best regards
Orchi.

UPDATE April 25th: Vintage Rolex Market Observations...

2010-04-25T08:52:00.000-07:00

Err buddies...here's hoping to follow up on additional Buy/Sell/Auction prices update
of Vintage Rolex watches...

eBay: 5513 Meter 1st Matte Dial + Oyster Bracelet...USD4,151...

http://cgi.ebay.com/1965-Rolex-Submariner-5513-200m-660ft-Meter-First-Dial-/280493659999?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Wristwatches&hash=item414eb9975f

eBay: 5513 Gilt Dial + Oyster Heavy Bracelet...USD4,551...

http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-RARE-1964-ROLEX-Submariner-5513-Gilt-Dial-/250613816327?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Wristwatches&hash=item3a59bf5c07

eBay: 5513 WG Glossy Dial...USD3,000...

http://cgi.ebay.com/Rolex-Submariner-5513-Vintage-No-Date-Watch-Excellent-/270565050113?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Wristwatches&hash=item3efeef0701

eBay: 5513 Matte Dial + Folded Oyster Bracelet...USD4,050...

http://cgi.ebay.com/Rolex-Submariner-ref-5513-1971-manufact-orig-matt-dial-/330420795391?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Wristwatches&hash=item4cee9d37ff

eBay: 5513 Gilt Dial + Riveted Oyster Bracelet...USD5,040...

http://cgi.ebay.com/Rare-Rolex-5513-Vintage-Submariner-Watch-NR-Chocolate-/200456479640?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Wristwatches&hash=item2eac232398

RARE Vintage Rolex/Tudor watches:

VRM: RARE 9421/0 3 Registers MC Head only...asking Eur 5,500...

http://www.network54.com/Forum/207673/thread/1272102614/FS-+3+register+Tudor+Monte+Carlo+9421-0-+Reduced+by+over+1000+euro

VRM: RARE 7149/0 2 Registers MC + Oyster Bracelet...asking USD 8,500...

http://www.network54.com/Forum/207673/thread/1272189343/FS+-+Tudor++7149-O+BLUE+Chrono+-++%5B%248500%5D

TRF: BNIB/LNIB/NIB/Unworn or 2nd Hand Rolex/Tudor watches For Sale

http://www.rolexforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=9

TRF: 116400GV Milgauss Full Package BNIB...Sold USD5,600...

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=125516

TRF: 16550 Cream Rail Dial with Complete Package Box + Papers...asking USD15,500...

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=125138

TRF: 1680 RED Sub Feet 1st Head + Package Box + Papers...Sold USD9,940...

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=125715

Vintage Rolex/Tudor prices falling SHARPLY across the board..upto 50% from 2008/9..

2010-04-11T08:33:00.000-07:00

Err...this is just from Orchi's own observation...
in eBay or elsewhere...
++ news gathered from a couple of hardcore dealers...

Rates shown could be +- 1K or 2K difference...
depending on its overall conditions...
Or...+- depending on its accessories or provenance...
Or...+- subject to Buy or Sell...(willing Buyer/Seller)

Rates quoted at PAWNSHOPS: May be a lot cheaper...

The PARTY is over...
Any comments...welcomed...

Best regards
Orchi.

SS/Plastic:

1665 SD White..................... down to USD9,000
1665 DRSD Mk.4 onwards............ down to USD18,000
1019 Straight second hand......... down to USD18,000
1016 Matte........................ down to USD3,500
1016 Gilt(no CR).................. down to USD5,000
5513 Matte........................ down to USD3,500
5513 Gilt(no CR).................. down to USD5,000
5513 PCG Gilt(CR)................. down to USD10,000
5513 Gilt Explorer(No CR)......... down to ????????
5513 Gilt Explorer(CR)............ down to ????????
5513 WG........................... down to USD3,000

5512 Matte........................ down to USD3,500
5512 Gilt(no CR).................. down to USD5,000
5512 Gilt(CR)..................... down to USD11,000

1680 White........................ down to USD4,000
1680 RED feet 1st................. down to USD8,000
1680 RED meter 1st................ down to USD9,500
1655 Straight second hand......... down to USD12,000
1655 Mk.3 onwards................. down to USD10,000
1675 Matte(except Mk.3 Radial..... down to USD3,500
1675 Matte(Mini Radial)........... down to USD4,500
1675 Gilt(no CR).................. down to USD6,000
1675 PCG Gilt(CR SCOC)............ down to USD8,500
1675 PCG Gilt(CR OCC)............. down to USD11,000
1675 PCG Gilt(no CR).............. down to USD6,500

16750 Matte....................... down to USD4,000
16750 WG "DATE"................... down to USD3,000
16750 WG No "DATE"................ down to USD4,000
6542 OCC Bakelite................. down to USD25,000
6542 OCC NO Bakelite.............. down to USD10,000

SS/Tudor:

714x MC........................... down to USD8,500
7928 Sub Matte.................... down to USD2,000
7928 Sub Gilt/White............... down to USD2,500
94xx/0 Sub........................ down to USD2,800
70xx/0 Sub........................ down to USD2,800
94xxx Sub......................... down to USD2,500
79xxx Sub......................... down to USD2,500
76xxx Sub......................... down to USD2,500
79xxx Chrono Plastic.............. down to USD3,500
79xxx Chrono Glass................ down to USD2,800
94xx/0 Chrono..................... down to USD4,500

SS/Sapphire:

16800 Matte....................... down to USD3,500
16800 WG.......................... down to USD3,000
168000 WG......................... down to USD3,000
16550 WG.......................... down to USD3,500
16660 WG.......................... down to USD4,000
16660 Matte....................... down to USD5,000
16700 WG.......................... down to USD3,000
16710 WG.......................... down to USD3,000
16760 WG "DATE"................... down to USD3,500
16760 WG No "DATE"................ down to USD4,000
14270 Blackout.................... down to USD5,500
16520 Inverted 9.................. down to USD9,000
16520 Upright 9(Tritium).......... down to USD8,000
16520 4 line...................... down to USD12,500

Please feel free to add to the following:-

DRSD Patent Pending:

COMEX:

PN 2C:
PN 3C:
626X:

MULTI-Tiers Buy/Sell: Many won't agree.Some may call it BS.Some agree..

Err...Orchi applies some averaging before coming up with that list...
AFTER taking into consideration of the possible...
MULTI-Tiers Buy/Sell prices at the different levels of source...
from the actual ex. owners of the watches...
which could be much LESS...on the same watches...

The good VRF Buddies are free to agree or disagree...

Orchi hopes the present collectors(NOT dealers) would understand this reminder...
DO NOT sell low UNNECESSARILY to others(Dealers)...

Please do your homework to check on the Seller's Prices...
of similar watches in the online markets...

THERE ARE several sincere n generous Collectors/Dealers around...
who could offer BETTER Buying prices...
for their collection or RESALE purpose.

All the best to everyone...
Have a Happy Weekend...

Best regards
Orchi.

Here is just a couple of examples:

1. 5513 PCG+CR+B/P Unpolished...

a. Small shop bought from a friend of the ex.owner...USD10K.(commission Usd500)
b. Lessor known Middleman(SEA) bought from smaller shop...USD12.5K
c. Middleman(SEA) bought from another lessor known Middleman(SEA)...USD14K.
d. Sold by Middleman(SEA) to a BIG Dealer in ASIA...USD17K.
e. BIG Dealer from USA flew(1st Class or Economy?)...
to ASIA recently to buy it at USD20K.
f. BIG Dealer flew back to sell the same watch...
at BIG watch show...n to the NEW Owner...USD25K?????

2. Tudor 7149/0 being listed just yesterday...
in VRM with Bracelet in good conditions...
Usd 9K + Shipping...by reputable Seller in Asia.

Price comparison from 2008 of similar piece n condition...Usd18K = 50% drop...
may be NOT sold yet.

How much would the Reputable Seller(Asia) paid for this watch...
on its previous Buy/Sell...?

How many Middlemen would be involved in the Buy/Sell of the same watch...?

How much the ex. owner would have sold for this watch...?

Best Regards
Orchi.

eBay Source: Yes..it would seem that the "Messenger" or "Whistle Blower?" might

Err...to be shot down...(Please pardon Orchi's English...
what's the difference between Messenger n Whistle Blower...?)

Nevertheless...here are just some of the recent ones...
SOLD in eBay...

Those Over 90 days period would NOT be displayed...
by eBay...as per Orchi's shallow understanding...perhaps.

Best regards
Orchi.

Relatively Newcomer Orchi wishes to ask the experts in here
to comment...

What would be the actual Buy/Sell prices of these Rolex watches...
exchanging hands along the way...
from or between UPSTREAM...vs. DownStream...???

http://cgi.ebay.com/Rolex-Submariner-SS-Date-Black-168000-Vintage-watch-NR_W0QQitemZ260575521397QQcmdZViewItemQQptZWristwatches?hash=item3cab82ea75

http://cgi.ebay.com/Genuine-1983-SS-Rolex-Submariner-Mens-Wrist-Watch-16800_W0QQitemZ300411404532QQcmdZViewItemQQptZWristwatches?hash=item45f1ea40f4

http://cgi.ebay.com/Genuine-Vintage-Rolex-Submariner-Steel-16800-Watch_W0QQitemZ110512309770QQcmdZViewItemQQptZWristwatches?hash=item19bb0c060a

http://cgi.ebay.com/VINTAGE-1978-ROLEX-SUBMARINER-DATE-MENS-WATCH-1680_W0QQitemZ230454150922QQcmdZViewItemQQptZWristwatches?hash=item35a823470a

http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Rolex-1680-Submariner_W0QQitemZ230453608879QQcmdZViewItemQQptZWristwatches?hash=item35a81b01af

http://cgi.ebay.com/Rolex-vintage-Submariner-1680-serviced-UNPOLISHED_W0QQitemZ280485542020QQcmdZViewItemQQptZWristwatches?hash=item414e3db884

http://cgi.ebay.com/1972-Rolex-1680-Submariner-w-orig-Rivet-Band-w-paper_W0QQitemZ250605587926QQcmdZViewItemQQptZWristwatches?hash=item3a5941cdd6

http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Rolex-Submariner-5513_W0QQitemZ230458115289QQcmdZViewItemQQptZWristwatches?hash=item35a85fc4d9

http://cgi.ebay.com/COLLECTABLE-RARE-ROLEX-SUBMARINER-REF-5513-660FT-200m_W0QQitemZ300412498986QQcmdZViewItemQQptZWristwatches?hash=item45f1faf42a

http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Rolex-Submariner-5513-1960s-Stainless-Steel_W0QQitemZ110514278599QQcmdZViewItemQQptZWristwatches?hash=item19bb2a10c7

http://cgi.ebay.com/ROLEX-SUBMARINER-model-5513-s-n1765XXX-vintage-1964-65_W0QQitemZ110513880266QQcmdZViewItemQQptZWristwatches?hash=item19bb23fcca

http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-80s-ROLEX-Submariner-Ref-5513-Box-Paper_W0QQitemZ220585049740QQcmdZViewItemQQptZWristwatches?hash=item335be4be8c

http://cgi.ebay.com/Rolex-Submariner-no-date-5513-Mens-Watch_W0QQitemZ190382046802QQcmdZViewItemQQptZWristwatches?hash=item2c53a77e52

http://cgi.ebay.com/Rolex-Submariner-no-date-5513-Mens-Watch_W0QQitemZ190382046802QQcmdZViewItemQQptZWristwatches?hash=item2c53a77e52

http://cgi.ebay.com/Rolex-5513-Submariner_W0QQitemZ330418645573QQcmdZViewItemQQptZWristwatches?hash=item4cee7c6a45

http://cgi.ebay.com/ROLEX-5513-Transitional-Submariner-Stainless-Mens-Watch_W0QQitemZ150426693402QQcmdZViewItemQQptZWristwatches?hash=item2306212f1a

5513+Meter 1st Matte:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Rolex-Submariner-5513-Meters-First-Gorgeous-Collectible_W0QQitemZ320507915690QQcmdZViewItemQQptZWristwatches?hash=item4a9fc2adaa

http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Rolex-GMT-Master-1675-Pepsi-Bezel-Watch-1960s_W0QQitemZ110511079627QQcmdZViewItemQQptZWristwatches?hash=item19baf940cb

http://cgi.ebay.com/Super-Nice-Rolex-GMT-Master-Ref-1675-Mans-Watch_W0QQitemZ320506460411QQcmdZViewItemQQptZWristwatches?hash=item4a9fac78fb

http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Rolex-GMT-Master-1675-1-6-Mill-Series-Original_W0QQitemZ250596163664QQcmdZViewItemQQptZWristwatches?hash=item3a58b20050

http://cgi.ebay.com/Rolex-VINTAGE-Authentic-Original-1675-GMT-Master-NR_W0QQitemZ230452545492QQcmdZViewItemQQptZWristwatches?hash=item35a80ac7d4

http://cgi.ebay.com/ROLEX-1675-GMT-MASTER-RETAILED-BY-TIFFANY-CO-PEPSI_W0QQitemZ110504371271QQcmdZViewItemQQptZWristwatches?hash=item19ba92e447

http://cgi.ebay.com/VINTAGE-SS-ROLEX-GMT-MASTER-MATTE-DIAL-1675-PEPSI-BEZEL_W0QQitemZ270557350297QQcmdZViewItemQQptZWristwatches?hash=item3efe798999

http://cgi.ebay.com/Rolex-GMT-Master-Model-1675-Yr-1966-Pepsi-Bezel-Vintage_W0QQitemZ200453602807QQcmdZViewItemQQptZWristwatches?hash=item2eabf73df7

http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Rolex-1675-GMT-Master-Punched-Papers-Set-1970_W0QQitemZ190383605757QQcmdZViewItemQQptZWristwatches?hash=item2c53bf47fd

http://cgi.ebay.com/Gents-Steel-Rolex-GMT-Master-Ref-16750-NO-RESERVE_W0QQitemZ370359041598QQcmdZViewItemQQptZWristwatches?hash=item563b1e7e3e

So Orchi being called out as giving NO-Value/BS is fair or not? 1019 B+P SOLD..++
April 10 2010, 12:41 PM

Err....for less at USD21,100...

http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Rolex-1019-Milgauss-with-Box-PUNCHED-Papers_W0QQitemZ200453051102QQcmdZViewItemQQptZWristwatches?hash=item2eabeed2de

Buddy JB...
Just for an example(outside of eBay)...
How much would you have bought this similar piece for...?
if you won't mind Orchi asking...

Or...IF that might get a bit sensitive...
PLEASE KINDLY advise...

PLEASE KINDLY advise...
what would be the actual prices...
along way when these watches...were exchanging hands...
between ex. owners - MiddleMEN -
shops - dealers - Middlemen - until the new owners...
from or between...UPSTREAM vs. DownStream...???

Best regards
Orchi.

eBay Source: Yes. Rolex watches with GILT Dials..SOLD recently for..++
April 10 2010, 11:58 AM

Err...a lot less in prices...

Best regards
Orchi.

eBay Source: Yes. Rolex watches with GILT Dials..SOLD recently for..++
April 10 2010, 11:58 AM

Err...a lot less in prices...

Best regards
Orchi.

Orchi is again wishing to ask in here...
what would be the actual prices...
along way when these watches...were exchanging hands...
between ex. owners - MiddleMEN -
shops - dealers - Middlemen - until the new owners...
from or between...UPSTREAM vs. DownStream...???

5513 Gilt No CR...

http://cgi.ebay.com/Rolex-Submariner-5513-Black-Gilt-Dial-Authentic-Watch_W0QQitemZ380218997302QQcmdZViewItemQQptZWristwatches?hash=item5886d17a36

6542 No Bakelite...(Refinished Dial)

http://cgi.ebay.com/Rolex-GMT-MASTER-6542-VINTAGE-NO-GUARD-GILT-IVqtr-1956_W0QQitemZ170466212864QQcmdZViewItemQQptZWristwatches?hash=item27b093fc00

1675 Gilt + Punched booklet...

http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Rolex-1675-GMT-GILT-Punched-Booklet-Set-1965_W0QQitemZ200454909741QQcmdZViewItemQQptZWristwatches?hash=item2eac0b2f2d

eBay Source: 1665 DRSD n White recently SOLD for..++
April 10 2010, 12:22 PM

Err...a lot less in prices...no?

PLEASE KINDLY advise...
what would be the actual prices...
along way when these watches...were exchanging hands...
between ex. owners - MiddleMEN -
shops - dealers - Middlemen - until the new owners...
from or between...UPSTREAM vs. DownStream...???

Best regards
Orchi.

Mk.3 DRSD: USD25.8K...

http://cgi.ebay.com/Rolex-Ref-1665-Double-Red-Seadweller-Submariner-mark-3_W0QQitemZ140397282937QQcmdZViewItemQQptZWristwatches?hash=item20b0548679

Mk.4 or Mk.5...SOLD for USD18.4K?
Any problem with this watch?
FAKEEE? or Good...?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Rolex-Double-Red-Sea-Dweller-1665-Vintage-Watch-1970s_W0QQitemZ140394546974QQcmdZViewItemQQptZWristwatches?hash=item20b02ac71e

1665 White: SOLD for USD9.2K...

Any problem with this watch...or what?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Rolex-Sea-Dweller-1665_W0QQitemZ230457194201QQcmdZViewItemQQptZWristwatches?hash=item35a851b6d9

1665 White: NOT Sold for USD10K...

http://cgi.ebay.com/1983-MENS-ROLEX-SEA-DWELLER-DATE-RARE-1665-PLASTIC_W0QQitemZ220577265155QQcmdZViewItemQQptZWristwatches?hash=item335b6df603

Glad 2C U're participating on Orchi's post again..Here's for you SOLELY..++
April 10 2010, 1:41 PM

Err...which perhaps you have missed
reading recently...

eBay 6542 OCC Bakelite + Papers + Rivet Bracelet...
SOLD for USD23K...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170440980664

eBay 1675 PCG OCC + Papers + Bracelet...
SOLD for USD10K...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=370333791998&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

Did you say...eBay auctions are akin to being...
a BAROMETER...???

n for Buddy Ray...
eBay does NOT keep records over 90 days...
Please observe eBay keenly...
n you shall get what you might be asking for...

One of these days...if you happen to be in the Orient...
close to Orchi...
Orchi could introduce you to the HARDCORE dealers...
n pawnshop owners from here...
n IF you are kind...n they like you...
they might let you take a peek at their books...
how much they "bought" for 5512/5513 Matte...
then resold them elswhere...

Best regards
Orchi.

There's been much decline in VRM prices too.Some are Project watches n those requiring..++
April 11 2010, 12:59 AM

Err...servicing...
having wrong bezel...
replacement hands...
replacement dials...
scratchy crystal...
rat tail lugs...
corroded cases...
rough movement...
worn out bracelets...
etc. etc.

NO...Orchi does not plug figures from thin air...
there's are enough show causes posted...

Orchi has other prices from other sources as well...
both locally n those from this region...
Some of these you would know as close friends here too...
but better stay anonymous...

IF you would choose to be in Indonesia or PNG...
prices there would be much less...
as compared with 2008/2007 or at its peak...

Although many won't like bad news...
these are close to the real thing...if not entirely true...

Don't shoot the messenger...
the news broadcaster...
or the whistle blower...
Orchi also said "DO NOT sell low UNNECESSARILY"...

Best regards
Orchi.

Here's the original thread posted in VRF...
where it received plenty of criticism in denial especially
from those Dealers n Collectors that refused to accept the fact that their stocks...
n collection of Vintage Rolex watches are worth a lot less than what they used to be...

http://www.network54.com/Forum/207593/thread/1270862260/Vintage+Rolex-Tudor+prices+falling+SHARPLY+across+the+board..upto+50%25+from+2008-9..%2B%2B

At the same time...certain BIG dealers n some veteran members do agree with Orchi's take on the matter...

Nevertheless...Orchi feels since the topic was posted in VRF...
there might have been a deliberate attempt by a certain veteran member(s) to flame the topic n conspire to setting traps along the way...for Orchi n perhaps others to fall into further irrelevant arguments which may lead to the forum Moderator(s) taking steps to lock the thread at the least...
or at worst...ultimately to delete all the thread topic entirely...
(This has happened before in VRF back in early February...
with another of Orchi's thread topic...exposing the trickery n poor ethics of the certain member - Dingomad)

Hence...this time Orchi sees the need to save a log of the relevant postings made by Orchi in that thread topic...in this blog instead.

http://orchipalar.blogspot.com/2010/02/fellow-vrf-members-are-not-foolsthey.html

*Philip*
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VRF Contributing Member
92.132.209.49
Nonsense post as long as are compared things that cant be compared.
April 10 2010, 12:40 PM

But this has been dsicussed over and over yet. sad.gif

*Philip*
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VRF Contributing Member
92.132.209.49
Pls no more posts like this one
April 10 2010, 3:18 PM

requesting VRF members to "do their homework".

Non mais je rêve!?!

*Philip*
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VRF Contributing Member
92.132.209.49
Just read again and again the (all) above. ;-)
April 11 2010, 12:29 AM

Why seeking your attention this is a bit megalo isn'it

http://orchipalar.blogspot.com/2009/05/orchi-believes-these-are-rolex-ref.html

"Orchipalar ...A Rookie Malaysian Blogger. ...A Beginner Rolex Watch Collector"

*Philip*
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Sparky
April 11 2010, 7:54 AM

"IMHO" - In MY Humble Opinion are the magic words to use before
imposing your views to others like a dogma... and even more when
you started collecting Rolex watches 2 years ago!
Dont you think Sparky?

I've just been proposed another 1680 Comex, it would be in my collection
today if what Orchis sayings were true.

*Philip*
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VRF Contributing Member
92.132.209.49
I was not refering at you Sparky. nt
April 11 2010, 10:12 AM

UPDATE:

There should be NO denial from these "Exclusive n RARE Vintage Rolex watches"...
n similar ones which were sold for a lot more money...vs. the falling prices recently...

1. 1665 DRSD Mk.4 with Relumed markers...being listed for Reverse Auction sale from USD17,000 n falling USD1K each week...until being SOLD...

http://www.network54.com/Forum/207673/thread/1270964043/FS-+Double+Red+Sea-Dweller+1665+%28DRSD%29+REVERSE+AUCTION%21

2. 6239 3CRC being listed for USD69,000...(perhaps 25% less in price from a sale of similar unit previously in 2007/8...)

http://www.network54.com/Forum/207673/thread/1270965062/FS-+Fantastic+6239+three+color+PN+1.7+mil+serial

3. 6234 Pre-Daytona Small Register USD45,000...

http://www.network54.com/Forum/207673/thread/1270965506/FS-+Fantastic+6234+small+register+Pre+Daytona+MINT%21%21%21

4. More examples from eBay: SOLD recently...

http://www.network54.com/Forum/207593/thread/1271039947/Are+these+watches+good+deals-----

UPDATE: April 12, 2010

Instead of taking what Orchi had posted in VRF with a pinch of salt...
for those that do NOT agree with Orchi...
the denial continues...

http://www.network54.com/Forum/207593/message/1271034571/DRSD%2BDial+relumed%2BImperfection+in+2010-.%26quot%3BHorrible%26quot%3B+akin

DRSD+Dial relumed+Imperfection in 2010=."Horrible" akin
April 11 2010 at 8:09 PM Orchi (Login orchi)
VRF Contributing Member
from IP address 60.49.32.202

Response to Correct DRSD Mk.4 with this besides the imperfection.Some may have missed it..++
Err...being worthless...or the sunken Titanic...?

BUT only one or a couple of years or so ago...
there were plenty of hoo-hah...
like watching a head-turning sexy young virgin chick...
walking along downtown busy street in the nude...
in broad day-light...
cars honking...
glass shattering...
stopping traffic...
saliva drooling...
tongue n tail wagging...
heart stopping...
n eyes popping...out.
maybe asking for over USD20K...
describing it as RARE bird in excellent conditions...
seasoned n faded to perfection...
what is or what not...

Similar examples can be said...
about a certain nos. of other prized collection of Exclusive RARE Birds...
having corroded cases...rat tail lugs...
OR...perhaps put together with used parts...
OR...corrected to the period of time n production era...+ provenance...
OR...Dial Relumed n Case Reconditioned to perfection...
that only a handful of other experts in this world...
might be able to tell the difference...
being owned n paraded by collectors whom they were selling the RARE watches to...
their valuable clients...(whom they won't offend at any costs).

Yes Prices have dropped...(to certain extent)
even on the RAREST Birds...
with so-so conditions or NOS conditions(or close to it)...
with or without features like...
chocolate brownie...
Tropical equator...
Sahara desert...
The banks of River Nile...
Frozen tundra of the South Pole...

Example 2:

62XX 3CRC "Paul Newman" Cosmograph...
in above average conditions...
Selling for USD69,000 or less...
was a DREAM to many Buddies here...
only one or a couple of years or so...ago.

Some are saying the storm may be over...
Good days could be coming back again...
Some are saying...NOT.

Here's a good read...from the TRUE n neutral judge...

http://www.network54.com/Forum/207593/thread/1270999036/What+to+do+about+watch+prices-++Ignore+them...

All is good then...
Please ignore what Orchi has said in the last 24 hours or so...

Best regards
Orchi.

More threads related to the topic have strung up in the VRF over the last 48 hours...
by those that might have gotten their balls strung up...
denying the reality of falling prices of their average Vintage Rolex n Tudor watches...

http://www.network54.com/Forum/207593/thread/1270910552/COMEX%2C+mil+subs+and+PN+Prices+Falling+75-85%25..+market+report...

http://www.network54.com/Forum/207593/thread/1270940418/i+asked+you+for+examples+Orchi

http://www.network54.com/Forum/207593/thread/1270999501/Whats+wrong+with+this+DSRD-

No matter how badly Orchi was hit by the negative innuendos or snipe remarks...
by the certain Buddies in VRF...
there has been some very interesting good read of additional threads that sprung up...
over the same period of time in VRF...

http://www.network54.com/Forum/207593/thread/1270920772/hey+boys%2C+all+one+has+to+do+is+look+at+the+VRM...

http://www.network54.com/Forum/207593/thread/1270973258/rolex+price+drop....

http://www.network54.com/Forum/207593/thread/1270999036/What+to+do+about+watch+prices-++Ignore+them...

http://www.network54.com/Forum/207593/thread/1271048190/Some+thoughts+about+Vintage+Rolex+Price+Trends%26gt%3B%26gt%3B%26gt%3B

For Orchi....
the BEST read comes from this posting by Buddy Dreamer...

http://www.network54.com/Forum/207593/message/1271018613/I%27m+sure+Orchi+is+just+having+a+very+off+day+%3B%29

http://www.network54.com/Forum/207593/message/1271058630/in+defence+of+buddy+Orchi

Potpourri of "ROLEX n TUDOR" FAKEEE cases/parts for wide range of Rolex n TUDOR models..

2010-04-01T10:59:00.000-07:00

Err...please allow Orchi to assure the readers to this Blog...
that this has nothing to do with the April Fool's Day...

This is so that the Newcomers n collectors of Vintage Rolex watches...
could be alerted to the existence of these FAKEEE "ROLEX" stuffs...
that is widely available in the relevant source from...
eBay n other internet watch markets...

Orchi suspects there are several Sellers pushing these FAKEEE stuffs
in the various internet markets...
some of the Sellers may actually be the SAME person...
operating under Different Pseudonyms...or Nicknames...

IF any Buddies need to know the DIRECT link to this source...
please send an email to Orchi...
n Orchi shall be glad to provide it...
by email only...

SO PLEASE...
BE EXTREMELY CAUTIOUS about the...

1. LONG Middle Stroke of "E"...
2. INCORRECT "G"...

between the Case Lugs...n Inside of Caseback...

Previous related thread posted in VRF...

http://www.network54.com/Forum/207593/thread/1269763708/TIPs+to+Spot+FAKE+551X+n+1680+Sub+watch+cases..Pls+comment..%2B%2B

Here are just some examples from PLENTY more:-

6263:

6265:

5514:

5517:

5508:

6538:

5512:

5513:

5510:

1655:

6542:

1675:

1665:

1016:

MORE FAKE "ROLEX" n "TUDOR Cases n Parts..++

Err...NOT limited to Dials...Hands...
Movement n Bezels etc etc...

1680:

1019:

TUDOR 9420:

TUDOR 7031, 7032:

TUDOR 9411/0:

These are irrefutable CLAIMS n FACTS about the FAKEEE "ROLEX"/"TUDOR" stuffs..++
March 31 2010, 2:01 AM

Err...being marketed by the Seller(s)...

The actual name(s)...link n email address...
to the website(s)...
have been amended by Orchi...
IF you need to know them...
Please send Orchi an email...

Best regards
Orchi.

"FAKEEEdotcom(Coined by Orchi) offers great deals on: watch, parts and accessories in best price for any customer in the world.

Specially, We have Rolex Replacement Case and Rolex Refinished dial and parts.

New Page Customer Projects to see finished projects by our parts!

Our Email is: sale@FAKEEEdotcom(Coined by Orchi)"

"About Us

1675, 1680, 5513, 5512, 5508, 6263, 1655, 1665, California dial, Rolex, tudor, day-date, alarm, Red, Submariner, Sea-Dweller, Ranger, explorer, daytona, datejust

Whether you are a collector or just a novice,

We'll try our best to find the dream piece for you.

We sold the watches, timepieces, watch parts and accessories.

Rejuvenating, Rebuild your Rolex , Tudor wristwatch bands. Rivet, Riveted Rolex Oyster , Folded Rolex Oyster , Solid Rolex Oyster , Folded Rolex Jubilee , Solid Rolex Jubilee are our specialty !! Band Restoration Photos, Re-painting watch dials, Watch Restorations, Custom Projects, Rolex submariner bezels, Restoring 6538 Submariner, Restoring Speedking, Recently completed jobs, Customer Feedbacks, Contact Page, FOR SALE Tudor, Omega, Rolex, Complete Repolish, Bracelet Repair, Relink, Refold, Redial, Mercedes Hands

We start our timepieces business at Ebay (FAKEEESeller) since 2005,

Our office is base in ***BEEP BEEP***.

We are over 487 and 100% postive feedback in ebay power seller.

Here is the feeback from our cilent (Mar 2010):"

[UNQUOTE] by www.FAKEEE.com ...

Available MOVEMENTs: How wd anyone know IF these are FAKEEE or GOODIE..??++

Err...Caveat Emptor n Caveat Venditor...

Who would know really IF these Caliber Movements...
are FAKE or GOOD...??

Please comment...

"Valjoux" Cal.72x for 6239/6263/6265 :

"ROLEX" Cal.1030 for 6538 :

"ROLEX" Cal.1560 for 1016/5512/1675 :

Available BRACELETs: Physically one hardly can spot d difference.Only Stamping is OFF..++

Err...on Clasps n link...but quite close...
n difficult for newcomers n buddies to tell...
n compare the difference...

Even present...
one can see the "Dropped Edge" on the buckle...

7206 Riveted : USD1xx + FREE Shipping.

"7206" n "Expandable" Riveted: USD1xx + FREE Shipping.

Might it be possible d FAKEEE cases got passed RSC..here??++

Err...after the cases might have been...
reworked a bit to make it looking used n vintage...?

Pics are excerpt from eBay...

5513 Case from the same source:

Finally here comes the AVAILABLE Dial: Does this look familiar with ONE posted in VRM?++

Err...n to Orchi...this one looks familiar to the one being fitted...
on a related watch being posted in VRM...for sale.

The VRM Seller stated clearly that the watch is fitted with...
a Non-Original Rolex Dial...

http://www.network54.com/Forum/207673/message/1269881276/REDUC+ED-+Rolex+6538+Big+Crown+%26quot%3BJames+Bond%26quot%3B+Submariner+w-+Service+Papers+-+MUST+SELL+TODAY

Relisted again...here.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/207673/thread/1270137178/FINAL+REDUCTION-+6538+Big+Crown+Sub+w-+Service+Papers%2C+5508%2C+6202%2C+1675+Gilt+Gloss

[QUOTE] in VRM:
Dial is NOT original Rolex. The dial that was on it was a bad refinish job, so we replaced it with the dial you see on it now. Again, while the dial looks nice and vintage, it is NOT an original Rolex dial. I stress these because everyone who sees the watch thinks the dial is original.
[UNQUOTE]

Orchi's question:
With NO disrespect or offense meant by this...

IF that is deemed to be Non-Rolex Original...
is it allowed to be posted n sold in VRM...???

Please comment...

Here's the FAKEEESeller's CLAIMS...
in the relevant website...

[QUOTE]
Rolex James Bond Submariner ref.6538 black gilt gloss dial refinished by professional with golden hand set.

With yellow lumious.

Free shipping by registes">The diameter of the dial is 27 mm, the dial feet position at 25 and 56 minute.

With yellow lumious.

Free shipping by registered airmail to United States, Canada, Asia, Japan, United Kingdom, Australia.

(Exception Europe country and South America)

If you have any question please feel free to contact : sale@FAKEEEdotcom
[UNQUOTE]

Pls compare the following Dials...
to spot the FAKEEE...n the Original...

Here's the Dial which appeared for sale in VRM...

Here's from the website selling FAKEEE Dial...

Here's the relevant Dial for Sub 6538 "James Bond" Big Crown...
from VRF Dial Archive...

PLEASE check n compare the overall layout of Dial n Prints format...
The experts should know this 4 Line OCC Dial better than Orchi...

"ROLEX"
"OYSTER PERPETUAL"
"200m = 660ft"
"SUBMARINER"
"OFFICIAL CERTIFIED"
"CHRONOMETER

Here's the Original n related Threads posted in VRF...

http://www.network54.com/Forum/207593/thread/1270005632/Potpourri+of+%26quot%3BROLEX+n+TUDOR%26quot%3B+FAKEEE+cases-parts+for+wide+range+of+Rolex+n+TUDOR+models..%2B%2B

Special thanks to Buddy Sparky...
n ALL those Buddies that lends support...
in the above thread...

This one is very special for Orchi too...TQ Buddy Sparky again...

http://www.network54.com/Forum/207593/thread/1270059141/It+is+pehaps+well+worth+remembering+..

Here's the other related thread on part of the same issues...
that Orchi had posted in TRF...

Orchi is always thankful to those many TRF Buddies...
whom are very encouraging n supportive of Orchi's works...
n that they have spent their time considerably...
to comment n response to Orchi in TRF...

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=122622

Thanks for watching...

Best regards
Orchi.

TIPs to Spot FAKE "Rolex" 5512..5513 n 1680 Submariner Watch Cases..

2010-03-28T23:26:00.000-07:00

Err...here's the little project that Orchi
is doing that has kept Orchi quite busy of late...

The ORIGINAL Rolex watch cases for Ref 5512...5513 n 1680...
with ROUNDED CROWN GUARDS...circa from about MID 60s to 1980 or so...
should be having EDZACHARY these...Original Rolex features:-

(NOTE: These Rounded Crown Guards may seems to be similar...
but they are actually NOT...)

1. Original Rolex Case Ref n Serial # fonts MUST NOT have...
LONG n EQUAL length with the Middle stroke of..."E"
The Middle Stroke MUST NOT be EQUAL in length...in "E"

The Middle Stroke of "E" MUST be...SHORTER.
along with the other fonts that MUST be consistent to ROLEX...
original variations of case stamping fonts...

2. At the back of the ROUNDED CROWN GUARDS...
there MUST be visible shape on this..."]" or "["
on the BASELINE of the lugs...to the watch case...
seen from BEHIND the backcase...

The BASELINE profile...
with PERPENDICULAR angle of Flanges...(90 degree)
MUST look like this..."[" or "]"...
depending on either the watch crown guards are seen...
from LEFT to RIGHT...

IF this BASELINE profile is looking like the one found with Ref 1665 DRSD or SD...
or with WIDER angle flanges slanting away from the PERPENDICULAR Baseline...

...*** WATCH OUT ***...

the watch case is...FAKEEEEE.

Here are the examples of ORIGINAL Rolex watch cases...
for Ref 551X n 1680 Sub...as well as 1665 SD for comparisons...
of the said BASELINE profile...
which can be easily seen from behind...
at the base of the Crown Guards...

Ref 1665 DRSD or SD...
with BASELINE profile(WIDER angle Flanges)...
NOT having the PERPENDICULAR Flanges...
at the base of the Crown Guards...to the watch case.

Ref 1680 RED or White Sub...
with BASELINE profile having PERPENDICULAR Flanges...
like "[" or "]"...
on the base of the Crown Guards...to the watch case...
seen from behind the backcase...

Ref 5512...n 5513 Sub...
From the Front...Topside or Sideways...
these ROUNDED Crown Guards...may be looking slightly different...
due to variation of production period or later Polishing works...
BUT from BEHIND...
the BASELINE MUST be the same...with Ref 1680...
having the PERPENDICULAR Flanges..."[" or "]"...
on the base of the Crown Guards...
seen from behind the caseback...

You won't see the REAL difference from any other angles...
they may look similar...

BUT from behind the backcase...VOILA...!!!

Here are the pictures showing exactly that...
ALL Original Rolex watch cases...
should have the...SHORT Middle Stroke of "E"...
It should NOT have the Middle Stroke in EQUAL length...

NO Exception:
The Middle Stroke MUST NOT be of EQUAL in length...
thus the so called...LONG Middle Stroke "E".

THESE here are pictures showing the 5512...5513...1680...
found in eBay...to have FAKEEEEEE...watch cases...
being sold from Hong Kong mostly...

The irony?...the relevant Seller(s) could also be members...
n lurkers in VRF...?

http://cgi.ebay.com/1970-Rolex-Submariner-5512-660ft-200m-Maxi-Dial-Divers_W0QQitemZ270546101182QQcmdZViewItemQQptZWristwatches?hash=item3efdcde3be

http://cgi.ebay.com/Rolex-Submariner-5513-Gloss-Dial-with-RSC-Paper_W0QQitemZ140383455768QQcmdZViewItemQQptZWristwatches?hash=item20af818a18#ht_6323wt_958

http://shop.ebay.com.au/time_holder/m.html?_dmd=1&_ipg=50&_sop=10&_rdc=1

The EXPERTS have already known about these facts...for years...
BUT Orchi hopes that the Newcomers to VRF...
could be well alerted...accordingly...

IF Orchi had done this little project before September 2009...
one of Orchi's buddies in TRF...would NOT have gotten burnt...
ending up with a "1680" Submariner with FAKEEEE...watch case.

Very Sorry for this LONG winded Post...
IF this little project of Orchi offends the freaking Seller(s)...
from Hong Kong or elsewhere...

So be it...

NOTE: All pictures are except from VRF Market...
with exception of those showing...
the FAKEEE watch cases...

Best regards
Orchi.

Here's the relevant post in VRF:

http://www.network54.com/Forum/207593/thread/1269763708/TIPs+to+Spot+FAKE+551X+n+1680+Sub+watch+cases..Pls+comment..%2B%2B

http://www.network54.com/Forum/207593/message/1269784819/Here%27s+d+comparison+again+Crown+Guards+between+1665+SD++vs.+551X-1680+SUB..%2B%2B

Here's the relevant post in TRF:

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=121928

Tips to Spot A FAKE or Refinished Dial on TUDOR Shield Submariner...

2010-03-20T08:52:00.000-07:00

Err buddies...as the general rule of thumb...for Orchi that is...
the quickest n easiest way to spot a FAKEEEE or Refinished...DIAL.
of any TUDOR Shield Submariner is this:-

1. "200m = 660ft"...(i.e. with spacing in between "=")...
is generally or usually or commonly or ordinarily...a FAKEEE...or Refinished!

"200m=660 ft"...is generally...CORRECT...!

2. "SWISS-T<25"...marked under 6 o'clock...
is a FAKEEE...or Refinished!

3. "T SWISS T" or "T SWISS MADE T" or "T-SWISS-T"...
is generally...CORRECT...!

4. The "=" between the Depth Rating Plot of "200m=660ft"
is aligned with "A"...of "SUBMARINER" vertically.

The Rolex TUDOR Shield Reference Models of Submariner...

7016/
76100
7021/
9401/
94010
9411/
94110
79090
79190

NOTE: The Earliest TUDOR Submariner with "THE ROSE" Emblem...is EXCLUDED.

Similar threads were also posted in the VRF...here.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/207593/thread/1268792848/Tips+to+Spot+a+FAKE-Refinished+Dial+of+%26quot%3BTUDOR+Shield%26quot%3B+Submariner..%2B%2B

n in the TRF...here.

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=119888

Best regards
Orchi.

An example of the CORRECT Depth Rating...
"200m=660ft" on the Original Dial...
looks...EDZACARY...like this...
with NO Spacing besides..."="...

In Search of Rolex Original Factory Silhouette n Bevel edges..or watches with FAT lugs..++

2010-03-07T06:49:00.001-08:00

Err...or perhaps Orchi could be a lousy dreamer...?

Here's what Orchi netted during the last weekend trip abroad in...err...Hong Kong...
from a TRUE Gentleman Seller whom Orchi regards HIGHLY...
as ONE of the BEST Sellers that this esteemed VRF could offer...
n a True Buddy.

NOT only has Orchi bought several watches from him prior to this...
Orchi has grown to be very fond of him...personally too.

Whilst he sells significant numbers of regular Rolex watches or parts...
n other famous brands of Vintage watches on full time basis...
he is BEST known amongst several SERIOUS n Worldly collectors of RARER Vintage Rolex watches...
with whom he has been keeping himself...in a very low profile...
n his many AWESOME deals in Strictest Confidentiality...for his clienteles.

Although Orchi wishes NOT to disclose his identity OPENLY in here...just yet...
because Orchi finds him to be somewhat shy at times perhaps...
nevertheless...to those VRF BUDDIES that desires to...
PLEASE drop Orchi an email...n Orchi shall be MORE than pleased...
n willing to share him...n his vast resources with you...

Ppsssssttt...he sells them in excellent quality...
n at VERY reasonable prices too...

Best regards
Orchi.

Here's to you Buddy...!
You know who you are...Cheers!!!

Many thanks for letting Orchi have this very NICE...
Rolex 1675 GMT Master with 2.999mil case series...n Mk.1 Dial.

Its in between the Lugs:
Vital stat...Case Ref# n Serial Nos...
must be easily n CLEARLY...seen.

?t=1267546110

Its Bracelet:
Stamped 7836 Oyster + 380 End Links...n Dated "72"...
(Orchi finds this combo to be BEST for Vintage 1675 GMT)

?t=1267543132
?t=1267537631
?t=1267539407
?t=1267539443
?t=1267539574
?t=1267539462
?t=1267539479

Inside of its Backcase cover:
Stamped "III.70" with 1 RSC service mark...
n minor pitting on the fringe away from the Gasket...
at no compromise to its water proofing quality...

?t=1267540161
?t=1267540339

In its Movement compartment:
#D065xxx Cal.1575...is clean n tidy...
winding n running smoothly.
(with exception of a noticeable looseness of its Rotor Shaft)

?t=1267540381
?t=1267540470

On its Backcase:
Its Factory case machining lines n finishing is still evident...
(Recess lip next to backcase cover edge between the lugs base...
is present for Rounded Crown Guards 1675 cases)

?t=1267540513
?t=1267540833
?t=1267541392

Its Imperfections...found on watch case n lugs:
Noticeable Scratches...Dents...Nicks n Dings here or there...
n everywhere...LOL.
(From regular usage during its 40yo age...
in fair wear n tear conditions)

?t=1267541039
?t=1267541066
?t=1267541145
?t=1267541268
?t=1267541236
?t=1267541317
?t=1267541344
?t=1267541359

Its Imperfections on the Mk.1 variant Matte Dial:
Due mainly to its aging...n PRIOR mishandling...
(NOT noticeable UNLESS seen with a Lourpe of 10x or more magnifications)

A little bit of Lume marker material being scraped off by its 24hr GMT hand...previously.

?t=1267541647

Minute Lost of Matte paint around the fringes of the Dial...
caused by CARELESS handling...during watch servicing or what not...

?t=1267541845
?t=1267541921
?t=1267541958
?t=1267541982
?t=1267542006

HERE's are the Factory FAT Case Lugs:
Obvious noticeable scratches n what not...
from regular usage or careless handling over the last...
40yo or so...

?t=1267542407
?t=1267542569
?t=1267542747
?t=1267542765
?t=1267542785
?t=1267542814
?t=1267542831
?t=1267542849
?t=1267542875

Here's its Hands:
(Seen with very minor cracks on lume n spotting)

?t=1267543380

HERE's its Beautifully FADED Bezel n Dial conditions:
(Matching Patina on STRONG Dial Hour markers n Hands...
MOST White prints n plots on Dial are still very much intact...)

?t=1267543334
?t=1267542894
?t=1267542916
?t=1267542933
?t=1267542951
?t=1267542986

The original entry can be read from the VRF...

http://www.network54.com/Forum/207593/thread/1267543568/In+search+of+Rolex+Original+Factory+Silhouette+n+Bevel+edges..or+watches+with+FAT+lugs..%2B%2B

Thanks for watching...

To ALL Newbies n Novices: Here is Orchi's List of TOP 10 Priorities when buying Vintage Rolex..

2010-02-25T10:56:00.000-08:00

Err...from Orchi's own NOVICE standpoint that is...

Orchi's List of TOP 10 Priorities when buying a Vintage Rolex:-

#1 Priority: Correct Case n backcase cover must NOT have corrosion...
(very minor pitting OK)
Case Ref# n Serial# can be clearly seen...
Minor W&T(wear n tear) on fonts is fine...
Factory conditioned lugs is a BONUS...
or at the least case lugs must be FAT...
Minimal W&T...is fine.
ROUGH n CORRODED watch case is NOT acceptable...

#2 Dial must be right n correct...
with STRONG markers...n PROMINENT prints.
A little craze..or minor W&T is fine...
Patina is more than welcomed...thus a BONUS.

#3 Movement must be right..
winding..n timing smoothly...
WITHOUT any corrosion or water damage.

#4 Hands & Crown must be Original Rolex...
Minor crack on lume..or minor W&T is fine...

#5 Bezel assembly must be Original Rolex...
Minor W&T is fine...

#6 Crystal must be original Rolex...
Minor scratches..or chipping is fine...

#7 Bracelet assembly must be right...n wearable.
Excessively worn out links n edges etc...are NOT.

#8 Original n correct Paper...is an obvious BONUS but NOT prerequisite.

#9 Original Box...is a little Bonus but NOT prerequisite.

#10 Original Accessories...is a little more Bonus but NOT necessary.

Pearl on Submariner/Sea-Dweller bezel insert...is the LEAST of Orchi's worries...

LUMINOVA Pearl...n Hands are acceptable...
as it gives a GOOD reference point in the DARK...

In addition to the above...

NEVER be afraid or shy to ask questions...or seek solid references.
NEVER be afraid to make mistakes...in asking questions.
THAT's the ONLY way to learn...

LAST but NOT the least...
IF what you see does NOT give you the Happy..or FEEL GOOD feeling...
it certainly WON'T.

ALL the BEST to the newcomers n novices...

The same thread is posted in the VRF...

http://www.network54.com/Forum/207593/thread/1267104983

Best regards
Orchi.

UPDATED: April 13, 2010

http://www.network54.com/Forum/207593/thread/1271075587/To+the+Newbies+n+Novices-++Sorry+Orchi+has+to+revise+what+was+said+before+in+here..%2B%2B

In the light of the latest findings by Orchi in VRF...
from the related Blog entry thread posted recently...

http://orchipalar.blogspot.com/2010/04/vintage-rolextudor-prices-falling.html

Orchi sees the need to revised the following statements said previously...
in this other related thread...

http://www.network54.com/Forum/207593/thread/1267104983

Orchi's List of TOP 10 Priorities when buying a Vintage Rolex:-

#1 Priority: Correct Case n backcase cover must NOT have corrosion...(very minor pitting MAY NOT be OK)
Case Ref# n Serial# can be clearly seen...
Minor W&T(wear n tear) on fonts is fine...
Factory conditioned beveled or chamfer lugs is a BONUS...
or at the least case lugs must be FAT...
Minimal W&T...MAY NOT be fine.
ROUGH n CORRODED watch case is NOT acceptable...

THE OVERSIGHT OF THIS IN ACCEPTANCE could cost a collector or dealer dearly...

#2 Dial must be right n correct...
with STRONG markers...n PROMINENT prints.
A little craze..or minor W&T MAY NOT be fine...
Patina is more than welcomed...thus a BONUS.

RELUMED MARKERS even on its Original Dial is A BIG NO-NO...
akin to being "crap"..."shitty"..."trash"...or "Horrible"...

THE OVERSIGHT OF THIS IN ACCEPTANCE could cost a collector or dealer dearly...

#3 Movement must be right..
winding..n timing smoothly...
WITHOUT any corrosion or water damage.

THE OVERSIGHT OF THIS IN ACCEPTANCE could cost a collector or dealer dearly...

#4 Hands & Crown must be Original Rolex...
Minor crack on lume..or minor W&T MAY NOT be fine...

THE OVERSIGHT OF THIS IN ACCEPTANCE could cost a collector or dealer dearly...

#5 Bezel assembly must be Original Rolex...
Minor W&T is could be fine...
INCORRECT PERIOD bezel even if its Rolex Original may spell trouble...
later on.

THE OVERSIGHT OF THIS IN ACCEPTANCE could cost a collector or dealer dearly...

#6 Crystal must be original Rolex...
Minor scratches..or chipping is fine...

THE OVERSIGHT OF THIS IN ACCEPTANCE MAY cost a collector or dealer dearly...
depending on its model...as Rolex might NOT produce any crystal any longer...
for example of an antique BubbleBack...or RARE Birds...

#7 Bracelet assembly must be right...n wearable.
Excessively worn out links n edges etc...are NOT.

THE OVERSIGHT OF THIS IN ACCEPTANCE could cost a collector or dealer dearly...

#8 Original watch n correct Paper...
is an obvious BONUS n MAY BE considered as prerequisite.

PREFERABLY from the 1st n Original Owner's watch...

#9 Original Box...is a little Bonus but NOT prerequisite.

#10 Original Accessories...is a little more Bonus but NOT necessary.

Pearl on Submariner/Sea-Dweller bezel insert...is the LEAST of Orchi's worries...

LUMINOVA Pearl...n Hands are acceptable...
as it gives a GOOD reference point in the DARK...

NEWER HANDS are MUCH LESS EXPENSIVE...as opposed to the faded ones...

In addition to the above...

NEVER be afraid or shy to ask questions...or seek solid references.
NEVER be afraid to make mistakes...in asking questions.
THAT's the ONLY way to learn...

LAST but NOT the least...
IF what you see does NOT give you the Happy..or FEEL GOOD feeling...it certainly WON'T.

CAVEAT EMPTOR: BE EXTRA VIGILANT n exercise due diligence...
when reading about these comments...

1. "SAFE QUEEN"
2. "Rolex did strange things..."
3. "Rolex was very inconsistent..."
4. "Rolex did this or that..."
5. "100% ALL Original..."
6. "RARE Opportunity to own..."
7. "Once in lifetime chance..."

ALL the BEST to the newcomers n novices...

Best regards
Orchi.

P/S: Whilst Orchi is typing out this thread...
Orchi noticed...that words used(in echo of those who uttered them)...
by Orchi in the other related threads...
like "shitty"..."crap"...have mysteriously disappeared...
(problem with forum engine?)...
whilst the same words uttered by the original posters in their relevant postings...
remain unchanged...

What is going on with the forum engine...?
It happens to Orchi's posting...only?

http://www.network54.com/Forum/207593/message/1271034571/DRSD%2BDial+relumed%2BImperfection+in+2010-.%26quot%3BHorrible%26quot%3B+akin

UPDATE: Case Series/Movement Nos. for The Earliest Rolex Ref 1675 GMT Master with 1st Gen. CR "OCC" Gilt Glossy Dial..

2010-02-21T08:34:00.000-08:00

UPDATED 29th March 2010 in VRF...

http://www.network54.com/Forum/207593/thread/1269878273/Update-VRF+Buddies+with+the+Early+GILT+1675+GMT.Please+Help+to+expand+this+Project+LIST.%2B%2B

http://www.network54.com/Forum/207593/thread/1269878273/Update-VRF+Buddies+with+the+Early+GILT+1675+GMT.Please+Help+to+expand+this+Project+LIST.%2B%2B

The 1st n EARLIEST Version 1675 PCG GMT with CR "OCC SWISS" Gilt Glossy Dial...
Case Series: -------- Cal.1565 Movement Prefix/# :

"OCC" 503,26x ----------- 3244x (eBay 1675 "1959" + papers)
"OCC" 503,xxx ----------- 3871x (1675 "1959") Anonymous VRF Buddy
"OCC" 504,xxx ----------- 9950x (1675 "1960") - Ditto -
"OCC" 504056 ----------- N667xx (from VRF member Keith-VRF S/N Project)
"OCC" 505466 ----------- D63364 (Caseback "I.60" - Buddy Francesco)
"OCC" 504.1xx ----------- N/A (caseback "I.60" - Buddy Gennaro)

"OCC" 505,xxx ----------- N/A (Caseback "I.60" - Buddy AndrewShear)

"OCC" 503,xxx ----------- 775xx (Caseback "I.60" - Buddy Gigigi)

The 2nd n LATER Version 1675 PCG GMT with CR "SCOC SWISS" Gilt Glossy Dial...
Case Series: -------- Cal.1565 Movement Prefix/# :

"SCOC" 506,xxx ---------- D 2328x (Caseback "I.63" - 1 owner watch)
"SCOC" 5xx,xxx ---------- D 25xxx (Caseback "1964" - Anonymous VRF Buddy)
"SCOC" 5xx,xxx ---------- D 5646x (eBay Caseback "IV.60" - Base Cal.1530 Movement is later replacement.)

"SCOC" 733,xxx ---------- D 6421x (VRM: Caseback "II.61" - Buddy Officinementali)
"SCOC" 694,xxx ---------- D 63xxx (Caseback "II.61" - Buddy AndrewShear)
"SCOC" 696,xxx ---------- D xxx26 (Caseback "II.61" - Buddy AndrewShear)

"SCOC" 695,5xx ---------- D238** (Caseback "II.61" - Buddy MikeWood)

"SCOC" 696,4xx ---------- N/A (Caseback "III.61" - Buddy Snorlex)

[img]The 3rd n LAST Version 1675 GMT WITHOUT Chapter Ring(CR) Minute Track...
Gilt Glossy Dial..."SCOC"...

Case Series: -------- Cal.1565 Movement Prefix/# or Cal.1570 Movement #:

From: 8xx,xxx ----------- D? xxx,xxx? or N? xxx,xxx?
Until: 1.4xx,xxx or 1,5xx,xxx -

With 1,217,9xx IV.64
With 1,219,XXX IV.64
Note: The above has SWISS-T25 above 5 minute indexes under 6 o'clock marker...

With 1,431,XXX
Note: This one has SWISS-T25 above 3 minute indexes under 6 o'clock markers...

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Err...here's an update of Orchi's study of the Earliest Rolex 1675 GMT Master with 1st version Chapter Ring(CR) "OCC"...
n the LATER version of "SCOC" Gilt Glossy Dial...

http://orchipalar.blogspot.com/2010/02/rarestelusive-n-earliest-rolex-ref-1675.html

Orchi has recently discovered from various reliable sources that...
the following Case Series n Cal.1565 Movement Nos....
would be correct for these RAREST n Earliest Rolex 1675 GMT Master watches...
up until the time of this posting...

http://www.network54.com/Forum/207593/thread/1267280202/Update-VRF+Buddies+with+the+Early+GILT+1675+GMT.Please+Help+to+expand+this+Project+LIST.%2B%2B

The 1st n EARLIEST Version 1675 GMT with CR "OCC" Gilt Glossy Dial...

Case Series: -------- Cal.1565 Movement # :

"OCC" 503,26x ----------- 3244x (eBay 1675 "1959" + papers)
"OCC" 503,xxx ----------- 3871x (1675 "1959")
"OCC" 504,xxx ----------- 9950x (1675 "1960")
"OCC" 504056 ----------- N667xx (from VRF member Keith-VRF S/N Project)
"OCC" 505466 ----------- D63364 (Caseback "I.60" - Buddy Francesco)
"OCC" 504.1xx ----------- N/A (caseback "I.60" - Buddy Gennaro)

UPDATED: Feb 27, 2010

"OCC" 505,xxx ----------- N/A (Caseback "I.60" - Buddy AndrewShear)

The 2nd n LATER Version 1675 GMT with CR "SCOC" Gilt Glossy Dial...

"SCOC" 506,xxx ----------- D2328x (Caseback "I.63" 1 owner watch)
"SCOC" 5xx,xxx ----------- D25xxx (Caseback "1964")
"SCOC" 5xx,xxx ----------- D5646x (eBay Caseback "IV.60" - Base Cal.1530 Movement is later replacement.)

UPDATED: Feb 27, 2010

"SCOC" 733,xxx ----------- D 6421x (VRM: Caseback "II.61" - Buddy Officinementali)
"SCOC" 694,xxx ----------- D 63xxx (Caseback "II.61" - Buddy AndrewShear)
"SCOC" 696,xxx ----------- D xxx26 (Caseback "II.61" - Buddy AndrewShear)

The above list would be updated for more entries from time to time...
as Orchi goes along...in search for additional data...
of these Earliest 1675 GMT Mater watches...

Thanks for watching...

To be continued...

Posted pictures n vital details are excerpt from eBay...
n from various reliable sources of VRF GMT Buddies...
n from Shear Time...

"OCC" - "OFFICIALLY CERTIFIED CHRONOMETER" -

"OCC" - "OFFICIALLY CERTIFIED CHRONOMETER" -

"OCC" - "OFFICIALLY CERTIFIED CHRONOMETER" -

"OCC" - "OFFICIALLY CERTIFIED CHRONOMETER" -

"OCC" - "OFFICIALLY CERTIFIED CHRONOMETER" -

"SCOC" - "SUPERLATIVE CHRONOMETER OFFICIALLY CERTIFIED' -

"SCOC" - "SUPERLATIVE CHRONOMETER OFFICIALLY CERTIFIED" -

"SCOC" - "SUPERLATIVE CHRONOMETER OFFICIALLY CERTIFIED" -

"SCOC" - "SUPERLATIVE CHRONOMETER OFFICIALLY CERTIFIED" -

"SCOC" - "SUPERLATIVE CHRONOMETER OFFICIALLY CERTIFIED" -

UPDATED: Feb 27, 2010

"SCOC" - "SUPERLATIVE CHRONOMETER OFFICIALLY CERTIFIED" - Shear Time.

"SCOC" - "SUPERLATIVE CHRONOMETER OFFICIALLY CERTIFIED" - Shear Time.

"SCOC" - "SUPERLATIVE CHRONOMETER OFFICIALLY CERTIFIED" - Shear Time.

"SCOC" - "SUPERLATIVE CHRONOMETER OFFICIALLY CERTIFIED" - Shear Time.

The Rarest..Elusive n Earliest Rolex Ref 1675 GMT Master with 1st Gen. CR "OCC" Gilt Glossy Dial..

2010-02-20T08:16:00.000-08:00

Err...for Orchi only that is...
(More update on this topic...soon.)

- 1959/early 1960 OCC(CR) Very RARE - PCG "SWISS"

- Early 1960 onwards SCOC-CR - Exclamation-Point(RARE) in 1960/61 - PCG "SWISS"...

- Chapter Ring SCOC n Underline(RARE) in 1962/early 63 - PCG - White/Silver (Single or Double) "SWISS" or "T"

- NON-CR SCOC 1963/64 - Square-Guards - 5 minute indexes under "SWISS-T<25"...

- NON-CR SCOC 1964 to 1966 - Rounded-Guards - 3 minute indexes under "SWISS-T<25"...

- Matte Mk.1/2/3/4/5 etc. 1966 up...

Crossovers in rare nos. might exist between the respective...
Transitional period...

This interesting topic was initially raised by Buddy Francois...in VRF.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/207593/thread/1265984531/Is+OCC+really+the+first+1675-

After much debate on the same subject by a Veteran VRF member...
Orchi posted this in response...

http://www.network54.com/Forum/207593/thread/1266000938/Buddy+Arthur.Orchi+didn%27t+think+need+to+buy+these+in+order+to+learn+n+be+in+VRF..%2B%2B

To be continued...

Rolex Ref 6542 GMT Master OCC Dial Variants + "Albino" GMT Dial(Great works by Buddy Stefano Mazzariol)..

2010-02-19T10:10:00.000-08:00

Err buddies...here are the relevant links to Orchi's opinions...
related to the great initiative works by Buddy Stefano Mazzariol...
when he researched n wrote convincingly on his world renown...
own Vintage Rolex Blog...

http://stefanomazzariol.blogspot.com/2010/02/rolex-gmt-master-ref-6542-albino.html

The Originally Articles created by Buddy Stefano Mazzariol...
was also posted by himself in the VRF...

http://www.network54.com/Forum/207593/thread/1265350716/Rolex+GMT-MASTER+ref+.6542+ALBINO

Subsequently in Orchi's relevant VRF postings...
Orchi wrote in response...to Buddy Stefano's findings...
that the Most Elusive Rolex 6542 GMT Master with...
"Albino" White Dial...could perhaps existed...
in very very small numbers...whilst at the same time...
Orchi also opined additionally...
what Orchi thought to be...
the correct OCC Dial variants...
for the historical n classic World's 1st Rolex GMT watches...
the Ref 6542 GMT Master with No Crown Guards...

http://www.network54.com/Forum/207593/thread/1265724120/Orchi+reads+with+fascination+for+6542+GMT+%26quot%3BAlbino%26quot%3B+White+Dial..%2B%2B

Thanks for watching...

Happy Chinese Lunar New Year to the Traditional Chinese - Rolex Vintage GMT collectors Worldwide..

2010-02-18T05:49:00.000-08:00

Err...the Mandarin Orange is the Symbol of Abundance n Good Fortune..
which is so true according to this Wikipedia article...
for the Chinese populations...especially during the Chinese Lunar New Year...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandarin_orange

Nonetheless...these Rolex Vintage GMT watches on Mandarin...
could also be the symbol of Abundance n Good Fortune...to Orchi...
who is afterall a person of little material possession...to begin with.

Here's wishing ALL Readers n Visitors to Orchi's Blog...

GONG XI FA CHAI...GONG HEI FATT CHOY...HAPPY LUNAR NEW YEAR OF THE TIGER...

Best regards from humble Orchi.

1st Watch: 9.4mil case series Rolex 16760 GMT II a.k.a "Fat Lady"...

2nd Watch: 8.4mil case series Rolex 16760 GMT II a.k.a. "Fat Lady" with No "DATE" plot on Dial...

3rd Watch: 2.99mil case series Rolex 1675 GMT with original Mk.2 Matte Dial variant...

Re: Dingomad..Fellow VRF members are NOT fools..They could easily tell that Pics show the SAME Rolex 16800 Matte Dial..

2010-02-04T08:00:00.000-08:00

Err...there is a familiar saying that goes like this...

"You can fool certain folks once...BUT NOT every time..."

By simple comparisons based on the following characteristics of imperfections found...evident in the undermentioned Pictures of 16800 Sub Matte Dial...
even a fool can tell that...the Pictures taken belonged to the SAME Dial...

The Pics show the Dial is precisely having...
the blemish above "X"...
n fading area next to the 2 o'clock marker...
n fading spot between 8 n 9 o'clock markers...
n the lost prints around the many prominent minute indexes...
are the SAME...n the Scratch on Coronet...is the SAME...

At the risks of repeating...
here are the SAME imperfection characteristics...once again...

Same blemish above 12 o'clock marker on the minute index...
Same blemish above "X"...
Same fading area next to 2 o'clock marker...
Same fading spot between 8 n 9 o'clock markers...
Same SCRATCH on Coronet...
Same lost of prints on many minute indexes...

n on TOP of it all...The SAME Dial is in USED conditions...
evidently also from the above mentioned imperfections...

IT is definitely NOT in...
"NOS 98% never been fitted to a watch before"...
as so claimed by the relevant...
"Veteran Seller n HIGHLY respected" VRF member..."
Buddy *Philip* a.k.a. Dingomad...

Therefore...the readers of Orchi's Blog...
would come to realized...with relative ease...
that ALL the pictures taken...are from precisely the SAME Dial...

Even a Diehard Fool could see that...
BUT Orchi has been amply advised by wised buddies...
that Orchi should NOT start an argument with fools...

That's what they said...though.

This pic is excerpt from the Original Seller of the Dial...
(famous background used by the Original Seller)

n these other pictures of the SAME Dial...
with bright background...
was published by the relevant VRF Seller...

The easiest way to tell whether a similar Dial had been USED or not...
is to observe the CIRCULAR shade of stain mark(or the lack of it)...
between the centre hole...n the DATE Window...

This is evident due to the fact that the DATE Wheel on the Cal.movement...
would impose this CIRCULAR shade of stain mark(or the lack of it)...
whilst the Dial is fitted on the Cal. movement for quite long period of time...

Rolex Tudor Ref 79090 Submariner in NOS(New Old Stock) conditions...

2010-01-26T07:32:00.000-08:00

Err...has had the privilege to deal with...

Just read what Buddy Rick T posted n promised before...in VRM here.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/207673/message/1263403338/FS-+NOS+Tudor+Submariner

n just look at what he delivers to Orchi...

He does what he says to Orchi...
n he delivers what he promised to...Orchi.

ONE of the MOST beautifully kept TUDOR 79090 Submariner...
in NEW Old Stock conditions...truthfully...

The 79090 Sub is fitted with 9315T folded links Oyster bracelet...
n 386B End Links...complete with Inner/Outer Boxes...Original warranty paper...Tag...Booklet etc...
ALL in perfect conditions as NEW.

Moreover...here is the thing which Buddy Rick T had done...
that has impressed Orchi...

He packed the NOS watch package in this sturdy box...
n this BOX is then stuffed securely in another Bigger outer box...
within layers upon layers of heavy foam pads...
(unlike certain Sellers who would wrap their watches with 1 or 2 layers of Bubble-wrap n shove it in the envelop for shipping...worldwide.)

Should this FEDEX package ever fell out of the Jet plane...
n landed on Rocky Mountains...
iF found...this box n the watch package inside it...
would still be in this sturdy conditions...

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Here's the rest of the NOS watch package...

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Thank you VRF n Buddies for watching...

http://www.network54.com/Forum/207593/thread/1264427529/Any1+needs+Reference+of+Buddy+Rick+T+%40San+Jose+CA-+He%27s+1+of+de+BEST+Sellers+that+Orchi%2B%2B

Best regards
Orchi.

Orchi should count blessings in January.Great Buddies.Nice Rolex watches.Year of Tiger soon..

2010-01-26T07:08:00.000-08:00

Err...3 going on to 4 Good scores...
in the Month of January 2010 alone...
ain't so bad...afterall.

Orchi should thank Wifey n Little Orchis for being patient...
n understanding towards Orchi...for spending too much time...
away from home...n always staying online during brief stay...
n spare time at home...

Thanks also to GREAT Buddies(YOU KNOW who you are)...
for supporting Orchi with...NICE Rolex watches...
both within VRF(Thanks to VRF too) n elsewhere...
especially...to Orchi's Old faithful buddy watchmaker...
HE IS THE BEST...there is.

In the soon coming celebration for the next Chinese New Year of the TIGER...

The TIGER would say...

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1st of the 4th arrived early January...this month.

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NOTE: Orchi was told...some of the EARLIEST 16750 case...
would NOT have "REGISTERED DESIGN" stamping between the lugs at 12 o'clock.
Notice the BIGGER fonts of "16750"...unusually on THIS watch...

Watch was seen to be mostly worn on wrist with straps...
as there is NO sign of abrasion marks between lugs...
(with NO Rust n Corrosion...absolutely)

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Another one seen to be with Un-Repolished case...
+ SLIGHT "Narrower" Crown Guards...originally.

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?t=1264273628
?t=1264273653
?t=1264273706
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NO signs of WORN OUT lugs...or Crown Guards...
just minor dings...

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?t=1264273906
?t=1264273885

NO sign of Dented Teeth...or WORN OUT lug ends...
just minor scratches...
(Rarely opened up)

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NO sign of rust or corrosion or water damage...
In FACT...the Cal.movement is seen to be untouched...
not having been serviced...before.

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Perhaps being One of the Earliest 16750 GMT Master...in the early 6mil case series...
The watch comes with a set of Near Mint n Excellent 78360/380 Oyster Links bracelet...
RARELY being worn...on wrist.

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Of course this next one...a 5.608mil case series 1680 White Sub...
would need little or NO introduction...
due to the earlier episodes of having...
really WORN OUT bracelet n Worn Case lug end at 11 o'clock position...
(Now been fairly well FIXED by Orchi's faithful watchmaker)

Thanks also the the previous master watchmaker whom had worked tenderly...
on the 1680 case...with his super re-polishing...
n Cal. 1570 movement servicing skills...

The watch is now running effortlessly...
still keeping pace with Cal. 3075 movement...
of another 16750 watch...being put on the other wrist...
at the same time.

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?t=1264275064
?t=1264275080
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The 3rd of the scores...
is thought to be a RARE find...(All in 7 Colours Dial)
More details n pics about this next RARE watch...
would be posted later on...
or sooner hopefully

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The RARE Dial mounted on the Cal. 3035 Movement...
BOTH are believed to be un-touched...
n NOT been serviced since originally...

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?t=1264275722

Since Rolex's Patent of Oyster Case had expired...at the time...
the relevant "PATENTED" stamp on inside of casebacks like this one...
was machine off...

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Thanks to VRF buddies...for watching...
All your feedback n comments would be much appreciated...

http://www.network54.com/Forum/207593/thread/1264276354/Orchi+shd+count+blessings+in+January.Great+Buddies.Nice+Rolex+watches.Year+of+Tiger+soon%2B%2B

Best regards
Orchi.

Pt. 2 Long Post: 1680 Sub - RSC did NOT accept Orchi's 1680..

2010-01-26T07:00:00.000-08:00

Err...Sub's WORN OUT 93150/580 Oyster Links bracelet...that is.

That happened when Orchi visited RSC in the afternoon today...Jan 20...
hoping to get the worn out bracelet replaced by RSC...for a new one.

After RSC checked out the 1680 watch to be ALL GOOD...
which took about 15 minutes or so...
Orchi was informed that their inventory is out of stock...
for 93150/580 Heavy Oyster bracelet.

Instead...RSC has issued an immediate order...with Geneva...
to obtain a set Brand New 93150/580 + 2pcs of New Spring-Bars...
for Orchi's 1680 Submariner S/N. 5.60mil...

Orchi was told by the charming lady who attended to Orchi...
that the only setback is...it may take upto 1 month...
before the new bracelet would arrive...

When asked by Orchi whether the existing WORN OUT bracelet would
be required to be returned for exchange with the new replacement bracelet...or not...

The lovely lady replied..."Not required...the WORN OUT bracelet is yours...".

http://www.network54.com/Forum/207593/message/1263904667/It+was+perhaps+this+lousy+%26quot%3BBUGGER%26quot%3B+that+caused+the+worn+off+lugs+ends+of+Orchi%27s+1680--%2B%2B

She then went on to issue THIS Cash Bill for Orchi totaling about USD545...
at today's FOREX rate...(Sell Usd 1 = RM 3.35)...(Buy Usd 1 = RM3.40)

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Nevertheless...the lady explained that RSC normally would engrave...
the relevant "reference marking" inside of the backcase cover...
to reflect the job for replacement of bracelet...

So buddies...once again thanks for watching this...
n allowing Orchi to share the experience in...
the recent Long Post about Orchi's latest acquisition of
this Ref 1680 White Submariner...

http://www.network54.com/Forum/207593/thread/1263855292/Pt.+1+Long+Post-+1680+Sub+-+Orchi+attempts+brief+review+n+to+highlight+the+watchmaker%27s.%2B%2B

Here it is again...
the 1680 White Submariner...
being photographed side by side...
with another similar 5.6mil case series...
1680 White Submariner...

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After getting back from RSC...
Many thanks again to Orchi's faithful watchmaker...
he was able to adjust the timing of the Cal.1570 movement...
to run a wee bit faster...in order to keep pace with...
the 16750 GMT...

This was necessary because the 1680 Cal.1570 was losing 10 seconds each day...behind the 16750 Cal. 3075 movement...

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So hopefully in 1 months time or so...
Orchi would get to put on the 1680 White Sub...
with a New 93150/580 Heavy Oyster bracelet...

Now Buddies...
would anyone think that the cost of the...
NEW replacement 93150/580 heavy Oyster bracelet...is costly?

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Thanks for generous feedbacks n comments...again.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/207593/thread/1264001194/Pt.+2+Long+Post-+1680+Sub+-+RSC+did+NOT+accept+Orchi%27s+1680..%2B%2B

Best regards
Orchi.

It was perhaps this lousy "BUGGER" that caused the worn off lugs ends of Orchi's 1680??

2010-01-26T06:57:00.000-08:00

Err...or Perhaps...there may be another root cause to the problem...
which Orchi could try to elaborate later on as Orchi goes along...in here...

But anyway...here's the 93150/580 EL Oyster bracelet assembly that...
came with the 1680 watch package...

Orchi hopes these pictures would illustrate...
that almost every parts of the once Heavy Oyster bracelet assembly...
would not be suitable for further use with Orchi's 1680 watch...
NOT unless...
Orchi deliberately allows the worn out bracelet assembly...
to be re-used knowing full well that it would wear out...
the case lugs MORE...with the intended frequent wear of the watch in mind.

Here are the irreplaceable oyster links...having worn off links n what not...
(the links have been polished out to rid of superficial scratches n dings...)

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Here are the replaceable but worn out End Links...
obviously neglected over long period of time...

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Here are the replaceable oyster links...having been worn out from continuous...neglects too.

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There here are the 1st links that would cause abrasion thus worn off lugs ends...of watch cases.
(re-polished to rid off imperfection...)

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So Buddies...normally would you leave worn out wheels or tires on your vehicles...n continue to drive it to work or places...
or would you have the worn out wheels or tires replaced...when needed?

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How come Rolex watch wearers in particular would allow their valuable watch...
(well the Rolex aint cheap right?)...to be worn on wrist frequently...
with worn out bracelet...?

How come if one considers the Rolex replacement to be costly...
why have they NOT consider to wear the Rolex with Straps...
instead of having to wear the watch with worn out bracelet...
that would surely wear off the lug ends of their Rolex watch case lugs...?

Many Rolex wearers even had to pay more eventually to have RSC replace...
NOT only the costly bracelets...
but the costly watch cases too perhaps due to corrosion or worn out lugs...
in cases worst than this...

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So buddies...please remember...
that most of these vital parts on your Rolex bracelets n watches...
are replaceable...

They should be replaced as n when required...
like the worn out wheels or tires of your cars n bikes...

IF you so happen been offered a watch with worn out bracelet...
just refuse it...n ask the Seller politely...
for a new replacement to lump it in the watch...deal.

Or use the straps...instead...
as they are much much cheaper to replace...eventually...
n you can explorer the fun of having different colours or types of straps...
being fitted n worn on the same watch...Super Cool thing to do!! Yes?

By accepting the worn out bracelet...
you might be condoning to the Seller's
bad habit of pushing...swapping...
n passing on...USELESS parts...around.

After all...IF you can't afford to have the worn out wheels n tires...changed...
Use the cheaper alternative of public transport...
Don't own a car...or err...alas...the Rolex watch...

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Worn out Spring Bars...End Links n Screws...
would cause the rest of the Oyster links to wear off...
more quicker than they should.

Preserve your bracelet...n it would save your Rolex watch...

Look...would you wear your precious Vintage Rolex watches...
or put on the DRSD...or Daytona...with a worn out Rolex bracelet...
yet call it as...cool?

Don't end up losing your watch...

Thanks for listening to Orchi's rants again...
Oh btw...yesterday Orchi had the notion of planning to sell
the worn out 93150/580 bracelet for whatever amount of money...
that Orchi could get from the VRM...
err...to possibly fund for a replacement of new bracelet...
or suitable one...

After this...Orchi regrets having that thought...
SHAME on Orchi...

Now Orchi knows exactly what to do with the USELESS worn out bracelet...
that had probably caused the lugs ends of Orchi's 1680 to wear out...

File it under...G...!!!

http://www.network54.com/Forum/207593/message/1263904667/It+was+perhaps+this+lousy+%26quot%3BBUGGER%26quot%3B+that+caused+the+worn+off+lugs+ends+of+Orchi%27s+1680--%2B%2B

Best regards
Orchi.

Pt. 1 Long Post: 1680 Sub - Orchi attempts brief review n to highlight the watchmaker's.

2010-01-26T06:54:00.000-08:00

Err...TLC n works on this 5.6mil case series Ref 1680...
a.k.a...the WHITE Submariner...

Orchi waited for the FEDEX parcel as it arrived safely in the afternoon...
yesterday Jan 18...(departed USA on Jan 14).

Lets begin with the negatives...or poor conditions of the watch...

Checking through the watch case lugs...
the 11 o'clock lug position is quite worn off at the lug end...
as shown from these pictures...

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The other lugs ends at 1 o'clock...
5 o'clock n 7 o'clock positions appear to be not as badly worn off as compared with 11 o'clock lug end...which apparently were caused by loose...
n worn out 1st bracelet links+End Links being fitted next to the lugs...
whilst being worn on the wrist...of its previous owner.
(shown from these pictures)...

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The above signs of worn off lugs ends...
are commonly caused by worn out 1st bracelet links+EL next to the lugs...

Fortunately for Orchi...in this case...
as this particular worn out lug end is quite awkward...
n displeasing...
Orchi's old faithful watchmaker was willing to work on...
this here 11 o'clock lug end...with TLC(Tender Loving Care).

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The watchmaker worked on the lug end for about an hour...or more.
Bit by bit...n little by little...

It slowly become clearer to Orchi that the worn out lug end at 11 o'clock...
would not be as bad of the eyesore...as when the watch just arrived...
before the watchmaker started to work on it...
(shown in these pics of different stages)

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Err...a little bit of mention about the "bugger"...
that had caused the case lugs ends...to be worn off...
making the once otherwise great looking case lugs...
but now looking like...eyesores!

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The above pics showing some of the 93150/580 bracelet parts(considerably worn out)...being soaked in WD 40...(a little DIY by Orchi at home).

More pics showing the worn out parts of the bracelet would be shown later on...

Meantime...Orchi hopes to display...
these pics showing the outer edge inside of the backcase cover...
does have signs of very minor corrosion n pitting spots...
As the pitting is confined to the outside of the Gasket seal groove...
this situation should likely NOT cause any compromise to the water-proofing...
property of the Gasket seal...between the backcase cover n case...

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Orchi shall now move on to display...
the other major parts of the watch...
which are more pleasing to Orchi's eyes...instead.

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This pic shows the new Crown n Crown tube replacement...

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Pic showing Lume of Short Mercedes Hand has minute cracks...
n the Second Hand has perhaps been re-lumed...

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The Second Hand is still luminous...briefly.
(UPDATE: The Second Hand is perhaps relumed with Tritium as its luminous fades quickly)

n the Bezel Pearl glows in the dark...as well.
(UPDATE: The Bezel Pearl glows continuously in darkness...likely a Luminova)

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The Cal.1570 movement is Hacking n it's seen to be clean...n tidy.

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Here's again...the all important components of the watch...
but not limited to these only...of course.

Lug at 7 o'clock position...

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Lug at 5 o'clock position...

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Lug at 1 o'clock position...

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Lug at 11 o'clock position...after TLC by faithful watchmaker...

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Some of Orchi's favorite pictures...of this 1680 watch.

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Thanks very much to VRF Buddies for watching...
n PLEASE feel free to offer your comments about this posting...

Sorry again...if it's a long winded one...

Partt 2:...

http://www.network54.com/Forum/207593/thread/1264001194/Pt.+2+Long+Post-+1680+Sub+-+RSC+did+NOT+accept+Orchi%27s+1680..%2B%2B

Best regards
Orchi.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/207593/thread/1263855292/Pt.+1+Long+Post-+1680+Sub+-+Orchi+attempts+brief+review+n+to+highlight+the+watchmaker%27s.%2B%2B

2010 - The start of new Decade - 1st Post - Rolex Ref 1675 GMT Master with Mk. 1 Dial variant..

2010-01-08T05:52:00.000-08:00

Err..."Orchi recently got this 1675 GMT watch from Buddy Nicolas Abuaf...
ALL in GOOD order..."

1.62mil case series...(amongst the early batches of 1675 with Matte Dial...)
Mk.1 Matte Dial...(Mint conditions)
NON Hacking Cal.1570 movement...(no sign of contamination by water)
Matching Hands with Small 24hr GMT Hand...
Open "6 n 9" Date fonts...
Blue+Brown tone Bezel Insert...
7836 Folded Oyster bracelet links + 258 Endlinks...(in fair wear n tear conditions)
No Sign of Service markings inside caseback cover...
Case not been machined re-polished...(no sign of rust or corrosion)
Watch winding smoothly n running accurately...
No Hic-ups...No Hassle...FAST Shipment n Delivery by UPS+Parcel Pro...

Watch was sold by one of the 1st Class...
n BEST Vintage Rolex Forum Sellers in the world from Argentina...
Buddy Nicolas Abuaf...
(In Orchi's book)

He was VERY Humble...when he 1st posted the watch...
for sale in here...

http://www.network54.com/Forum/207673/message/1255952251/FS-+Fantastic+1675+GMT+1.62+millon+serial%2C+Mk1+Dial+first+owner

He didn't even utter THE CLAIM...
which has generally been ABUSED...unfortunately...
by certain regular VRM Sellers...

"ALL ORIGINAL"..."100% ORIGINAL"...

During negotiation stage...
Orchi had a doubt about the case...
with missing "STAINLESS STEEL"...stamping.

Buddy Nicolas had NO objection or reservation...
when Orchi blasted NO less than a Dozen emails to...
the relevant VRF Buddies asking for their assistance...
to offer comments on Orchi's doubt...

ASAP...EVERYONE of the relevant VRF Expert Buddies...
with whom Orchi is very much appreciative of...
replied to Orchi with positive encouragements...

Thank you very much Buddy Nicolas Abuaf...
for being very attentive n accommodating to Orchi's requests...
n for possessing the patience to listen to Orchi's inquiries n ranting...
like you always have been for putting up with Orchi.
Sorry for NOT posting this earlier in October 2009...

Best regards
Orchi.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/207593/thread/1262895994/A+VRF+Buddy+asked+for+a+reference+of+Buddy+Nicolas+Abuaf..Orchi+has+this+to+reply..%2B%2B

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Rolex Ref 16750 GMT Master - A Small Dream came through...

2009-12-25T16:23:00.000-08:00

Err...Orchi has been wishing to get a near virgin perfect...
looking 16750 GMT with Matte Dial...for some time since.

n this is what Buddy Andrew Shear of ShearTime NYC delivered...
in record time...fated well for Orchi's wrist...

Ref 16750 GMT Master is having Mk.2 Matte Dial variant...
Quick Set Date
In near Virgin original conditions...

Best regards
Orchi.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/207593/thread/1255594322

Here's from ONE of the Highest regarded Vintage Rolex watch Sellers...in VRF.
Andrew Shear of ShearTime NYC...

Having NOT any abrasion marks with End Pieces...
(watch was mostly fitted with leather strap)

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Having NOT any signs of rusting or corrosion whatsoever...
Having clean movement...well preserved with TLC...of a Master watchmaker...
(No sign of abused or mishandling...n having high degree of expertise working with precision tools)

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Having NO signs of the watch case n bezel assembly...
been machine RE-Polished...out of factory.

The back of the PEPSI Bezel insert...is RED!!!

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Just MINOR abrasion...scratches n dings on the entire watch case...n lugs.

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Having perhaps...still the original crystal(though polished)...since factory.

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Having still...the original Crown n Tube...

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Having still...NO visible loss of any prints/plots/minute indexes...
or Tritium markers...
n NO visible signs of spotting/blistering/scratches...
on its Original Matte Dial...

Hands on this watch...are still graceful...

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Merry X'Mas & Happy New Year 2010 to All Readers...

2009-12-24T10:05:00.000-08:00

Err...Here's Orchi's 2009 acquisition from World 1st Class VRM Sellers/Buddies..

http://www.network54.com/Forum/207593/message/1261665347/Merry+X%27Mas+VRF.Here%27s+Orchi%27s+2009+acquisition+from+World+1st+Class+VRM+Sellers-Buddies%2B%2B

Despite whatever brought upon to the current World's economy by
screw-ups of the US Commercial Financial institutions...n governing policies...
Orchi...being half way across the Globe from the USA in Asia...
has been fortunate enough to be able to sustain works...
to be busy n useful...

In the light of celebrating the present 2009 year end...
n upcoming New Year 2010 Festive Seasons...
Orchi ought to be thankful also to a great many folks that have always been...
very supportive of Orchi's addiction...
with the Vintage Rolex watches...
especially with the Rolex GMT Master watches...

These humbly few numbers of Rolex GMT Master watches...
do serve as constant encouragement for Orchi to work harder...
n be inspired to obtain more beautiful Vintage Rolex watches...
in the coming New Year 2010...hopefully.

Hip Hip Hooray!!!...Triple Cheers to the VRF...!!!

Warmest Festive Greetings...to ALL.
Orchi.

BIG thanks to Buddy Greg Gibson of Atlanta USA...
for this 8.65mil case series 16750 GMT...

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BIG thanks to Buddy Ben of NBTimes of Hong Kong...
for this 9.4mil case series 16760 GMT "Fat Lady"...

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n for this 2.99mil case series Mk.2 Matte Dial 1675 GMT...

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BIG thanks to Buddy - WBAW(WannaBuyAWatch) of Melrose CA...USA.
for this 2.0mil case series Mk.1 Matte Dial 1675 GMT...

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BIG thanks to Buddy Andrew Shear of ShearTime NYC...USA.
for this 7.19mil case series 16750 GMT...

Buddy Andrew even walked the extra miles...
to deliver a Brand New 78360 Oyster bracelet for this watch...

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LASTLY...but not the least...
BIG thanks to Buddy Nicolas Abuaf of BuyingAssistance - Argentina.
for this 1.62mil case series Mk.1 Matte Dial 1675 GMT...

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Rolex GMT watches are Orchi's Best Traveling Companions...(1)

2009-12-01T05:18:00.000-08:00

Err...in recent months...
Orchi has had to travel to few more places at various parts of the world on few occasions...

In here...Orchi hopes to share some of these pictures taken during these...
memorable overseas trips...

During each journey...
Orchi never fails to leave home...
without the Rolex GMT watches...

Best regards,
Orchi.

In December 2009...Orchi revisited Ho Chi Minh City - Vietnam...

http://www.network54.com/Forum/207593/message/1259656349/Good+Morning+Vietnam+-+Ho+Chi+Minh+City%28Saigon%29...

In October 2009...Orchi traveled twice to Changsa - Hunan China.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/207593/message/1254662830/China+is+Rolex%27s+biggest+market-+But+Stores+are+cold+while+biggest+crowd+is+OUTside..%2B%2B

In July 2009...Orchi revisited Sweden n Germany again...

http://www.network54.com/Forum/207593/message/1247758233/

In June 2009...Orchi whizzed through 5 European countries...

http://www.network54.com/Forum/207593/message/1245173412/

Either Rolex RARE "Exclamation Point" or RARE "Underline" = TRITIUM on Markers..

2009-10-17T11:23:00.000-07:00

Err...here's from Orchi's own additional observations...
about the Rolex RARE "Exclamation Point" Dials...

But to begin with...lets recapped Orchi's previous observation about the...
RARE Rolex "Underline" Dials...

Additional read about the RARE "Underline" Dials...

TRITIUM(which was safer) replaced RADIUM(too lethal radioactive) from as early as 1958 or 1959...
BUT there was NO Regulation yet at the time...
requiring ROLEX to mark the TRITIUM usage on Dial n Hands...

While this was going on...some OLD stocks of Dials were made
(marked with GILT "SWISS")...
which could easily be mistaken that the Dial might still have...
the lethal radioactive RADIUM on the Dial markers n hands...

Therefore...ROLEX decided to mark the remaining stocks of Dials(marked with GILT "SWISS")...
which was in smaller quantity to begin with...with the "Underline" in White(or Silver) paint...or in Black paint...
on the Dials(Top Half or Bottom Half regardless)...with or without...
DOUBLE "T" on each sides of the existing GILT "SWISS" on the Dial...
or...additional marking of "SWISS" in White(or Silver) paint...
above or next to...the existing GILT "SWISS" under the 6 o'clock markers...

Subsequently by the Later 50s n Early 60s...
might be from 1959 to 1963 or so roughly...
A LAW was passed requiring ALL watch makers(including Omega etc etc)...
n ROLEX to mark the usage of SAFER Tritium...
on the Dial markers n Hands...with the early use of the Symbol "T"...
or later on with "SWISS-T<25"... or "T SWISS T"...or "T SWISS T<25"...or "T SWISS MADE T"...etc etc.

So From then onwards until 1998 or so...ALL Rolex Dials started to be marked accordingly as above...
to indicate the usage of the SAFER Tritium on Dial markers n Hands...

Having said the above...Orchi also thinks that...
these days when a Dial is found to have...
the RARE "Underline" on the Dial...
it would NOT have the RARE "Exclamation Point" under the 6 o'clock marker...

n THOSE Dials of the SIMILAR era...which is found to have the RARE "Exclamation Point"...
it would NOT have the RARE "Underline" on the Dial...

Nevertheless...there may come a time...
or perhaps someone might possess a ROLEX Dial that has...
BOTH the RARE "Underline" & the RARE "Exclamation Point" on the SAME Dial...???

DOUBLE RARE "Underline" & "Exclamation Point" Dial -
If someone possesses this type of Dial already...

Please post your RARE "Underline" Dials...
or your "Exclamation Point" Dials...

Thanks a million for watching...

Oh btw...here's a notable mention posted by Buddy Diverdick...
about Tritium markings on ROLEX Dials...

Best regards
Orchi.

Here are few examples of Vintage Rolex Dials...the RARE "Underline"...(Excerpt from VRF Buddy PhilippS)
...n having the RARE "Exclamation Point"...(Excerpt from VRF Buddy Arthur n Ortope)

Here's Orchi's Novice's opinion.The Rolex All RED 24hr GMT hand is genuine..

2009-05-06T08:47:00.000-07:00

Err...they do exist from the time that Rolex
stopped producing the Small 24hr GMT Hand for
early 1675 GMT SquareGuards with Gilt Dial..

It is believed to have been a standard feature of 1675 GMT watches...
from 1966 or so...until 1972 or so at certain Rolex markets at the time...
possibly on 1675 GMT Master with MK.1 n MK.2 Dial variants...as well.

It is also possible that the 1675 GMT Master with MK.3 "Radial Mini" Dial
could have had this feature of the 24hr All Red GMT hand...

Nonetheless...the above is just an opinion from Orchi's novice observation n own finding...
the opinions of the others may differ...

Best regards
Orchi.

The remaining articles pertaining to the ALL RED GMT Hand...
can be found in the VRF...

http://www.network54.com/Forum/207593/message/1239600266/

Latest Update:

http://www.network54.com/Forum/207593/message/1239851854/

Orchi believes these are Rolex Ref 16750 GMT Master Dial Variants..

2009-05-06T08:40:00.000-07:00

Err buddies...in here Orchi wishes to highlight the
Rolex Ref 16750 GMT watches n its Dial Variants in here...
for comparisons n further references that you might have on
the subject matter...

Thanks for your participation...

Best regards
Orchi.

The continuation of the remaining article about
the Rolex Ref 16750 GMT Master watch Dial variants...
can be found in the TRF or the VRF as well...

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=77719

http://www.network54.com/Forum/207593/message/1240995126/Orchi+believes+these+are+Rolex++Ref+16750+GMT+Master++Dial+Variants..%2Bpics.

Pic Courtesy of Buddy John Donaty in VRF Dial Archive...

Orchi believes there're only 2 WG Gloss Dial variants Rolex Ref 16760 GMT II a.k.a "Fat Lady"..

2009-05-06T08:31:00.000-07:00

Err Buddies...in here Orchi wishes to highlight
the super sexy...
Ref 16760 GMT Master II...a.k.a. the "Fat Lady"...
originally coined by a Germany collector n fellow VRF member...
Buddy GeorgB...

http://www.network54.com/Forum/207593/message/1223309257/

It is the most practical GMT Master watches ever made by Rolex...
in a relatively short period of time between 1983 until 1988.
in Orchi's own novice opinion...

The 1st Generation GMT Master II - Ref 16760 GMT II...
has a NO "DATE" plot after "OYSTER PERPETUAL"...
on its WG Glossy Dial variant...
with Case series of about 8.4 million series...
which is believed to have been produced very briefly in 1984 or so only...

The latter variant of Ref 16760 GMT Master II WG Gloss Dial...
featured a "DATE" plot behind "OYSTER PERPETUAL" ie "OYSTER PERPETUAL DATE"...
on a separate Glossy Dial variant...
which is more commonly found from 1984 or 1985...
until 1988 "R" Series cases or so...

Best regards
Orchi.

The continuation of the above remaining article...
with pictures of the Rolex REf 16760 Dial variants...
can be accessed from the VRF...

http://www.network54.com/Forum/207593/message/1240210987/Orchi+believes+there%27re+only+2+WG+Gloss+Dial+variants+Ref+16760+GMT+II+a.k.a+%26quot%3BFat+Lady%26quot%3B.%2B%2B

Rolex Ref 1675 GMT Master Mk.1 & Mk.2 Matte Dials..Siblings Rivalry...

2009-04-16T08:41:00.000-07:00

Err...thanks to Buddy Ben of NBTimes from Hong Kong...
& Buddy Michael of WannaBuyAWatch? from LA, USA...
please accept this sincere gesture as
a small token of appreciation to your integrity...
trust...n generous support rendered upon Orchi...
on these recently successful n fun...done deals.

The 2.99 mil 1675 GMT Master with MK.2 Dial...is a repeated deal
with Buddy Ben...

On the other hand...the 2.011 mil 1675 GMT Master with MK.1 Dial...
is the 1st deal done with Buddy Michael of WannaBuyAWatch? of LA...

http://www.network54.com/Forum/207593/message/1238214633/Best+news+in+weeks%21+TQ+Buddy+Ben-NBTimes+%26amp%3B+Buddy+Michael-WBAW-..for+a+Happiest+WeekEnd..%2B%2B

BOTH your watches arrived at Orchi...safely n beautifully...

Best regards,
Orchi.

Rolex Ref 1675 GMT Master Matte Dial Variants..from a Rookie's perspectives..

2009-04-15T11:47:00.000-07:00

Err buddies...

These here are from Orchi's little study n understanding...
of the 1675 GMT Master Matte Dial Variants...
albeit still in its infancy stage...at the present moment...
until hopefully...Orchi could understand them a little more later on...
to be able to suggest any further updates subsequently...
or as soon as possible...

http://www.network54.com/Forum/539585/message/1240158368/1675--2.999mil+SN%2C+II.71--posted+by+orchi

http://www.network54.com/Forum/207593/message/1240153679/Buddy+Tomvox1.If+permitted.Here+are+1675+GMT+Master+Matte+Dial+Variants.Once+again%2Bscans

Thanks for watching...

Vintage Rolex "UnderLine___" Dials...Theory or Hypothesis...

2009-02-16T22:28:00.000-08:00

Err...for years worldwide Vintage Rolex watch collectors...
& dealers have been debating about the RARE existence of Vintage
Rolex watches that have the perculiar "UnderLine" mark on the watch Dials...

These "Underline" marks on Dials...are normally in White single underline
plot....that MAY or May NOT appear on Rolex watches that were produced between 1957(late 50s) until the early 60s only...& which MAY include the following watch models that are HIGHLY collectible & valuable these days...such as...

Ref 6542 GMT Master...(1953 to 1959)
Ref 1675 GMT Master...(1958 to 1980)
Ref 6609 Turn-O-Graph...(1956 to 1959)
Ref 1625 Turn-O-Graph...(1959 to 1977)
Ref 6238 Daytona 1961 - 1967
Ref 6239 Daytona 1963 - 1969
Ref 6610 Explorer 1955 - 1959
Ref 5504 Explorer 1957 - 1959
Ref 5500 Explorer 1958 - 1967
Ref 1016 Explorer 1959 - 1990
Ref 6538A Submariner 1955 - 1959
Ref 6536/1 Submariner 1955 - 1959
Ref 6536 Submariner 1955 - 1959
Ref 6538 Submariner 1955 - 1959
Ref 5510 Submariner 1958 - 1959
Ref 5508 Submariner 1958 - 1962
Ref 5512 Submariner 1959 - 1978
Ref 5513 Submariner 1962 - 1989
Ref 6541 Milgauss 1955 - 1962
Ref 1019 Milgauss 1962 - 1988

Some may be in Black line plot on Dials that are either in White or Silver...
or plotted in White on Black Glossy or Matte Dials...

The "UnderLine" appeared either on the TOP Half...or the BOTTOM Half of the Dials...at random.

Until fairly recently...few versions of "explanations" by avid collectors & dealers...have often surfaced in conversations & published materials on the relevant subject matter...either off-line or on-line.

Some versions of the "explanations" to the "UnderLine" subject are...

1. that the "UnderLine" present on Dials...is to facilitate as an alignment
for Dial printing by the Rolex's contracted Dial suppliers...

2. that the "UnderLine" present on Dials...is to mark the 1st batch of the
production of certain Rolex watch models...

3. that the "UnderLine" present on Dials...is for decorative purpose only.

Thus during Orchi's attempts to understand the RARE appearance of the "UnderLine"
on Dials of such Rolex models as mentioned above...Orchi could NOT come to a
better understanding of the existence of why Rolex had intended the "UnderLine" to
appear on VERY Fewer of their watches of those era...

Until fairly recently...when Orchi has had the greatest privilege to meet with
Mr. James M. Dowling(& his lovely Wife Minda) - the Author of...

The Best of Time
ROLEX
WRISTWATCHES
An Unauthorized History
by James M. Dowling & Jeffrey P. Hess

or also known as "Mr. Rolex" to the worldwide Rolex Vintage watch fans...
Orchi popped the question about the early Rolex watches with "UnderLine" on
the Dials...

A Very Kind Gentleman & Teacher that he is...always willing to share his
wealth of knowledge about Vintage Rolex watches...James shared with Orchi...
that the present of SIMPLY the "UnderLine" on Dials alone were meant to indicate the formal change in the usage of "Tritium" for making the Dial markers & hands to be luminous...as intended by Rolex at the time...to conform to the regulatory requirement by the authorities then...in replacement of "Radium" which was used for many years previously in the watchmaking history to make the Dial markers & Hands luminous...that was previously marked as "SWISS" on ALL Rolex Dials...until
the late 50s...

In its history of "Radium" usage..."Radium" was discovered to be very lethal in its radioactive dosage...
causing harmful side effects particularly to the Dial painters or those that have
been widely exposed to the highly radioactive substance "Radium"...such was in this past infamous incident which had previously occurred way back in 1917...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radium_Girls

Eventually "Radium" had to be phase out as quickly as possible then by watch producers worldwide.

It was later ONLY became compulsory that the usage of "Tritium" with much Milder dosage of radioactivity level(eg.<25 micro Sv/h)...be marked accordingly either by adding the plot "T" at 6 o'clock position of the Dials...in later production of watches by Rolex in particular from early 60s...

It was also during the same Transitional Period soon after the change from "Radium" to "Tritium"...most of the remaining Dials in stocks...that were previously contracted & made by the relevant Rolex's Dial suppliers...had to be re-marked or re-printed with the additional "T" or "T<25 variant" plots to indicate the MILD radioactivity usage of of "Tritium" instead of "Radium" on the available Dials which had been Pre-printed with "SWISS" at the 6 o'clock position of ALL the remaining Dials in stocks...believed to be in limited quantities then.

Therefore...with Orchi's own clearer understanding of the purpose & intention by Rolex for the use of the "Underline" plot on those RARE remaining Dials...Orchi
hopes to share the above...& the following articles published from the VRF...in here.

Happy reading...here

& Here...

...n HERE Also...

Latest Arrival: Another Ref 16760 GMT Master II "Fat Lady" with copper-toned Patina...

2009-02-05T22:36:00.000-08:00

Err...Orchi has to find a way to ease the itch & fancy for
Rolex Ref 16760 GMT II "Fat Lady"...naughty naughty thoughts!

Briefly...this Ref 16760 GMT II "Fat Lady" was 1st introduced to Orchi
by Buddy Ben of NBTimes of Hong Kong...

After spending some time on checking through "her" vital statistics...
with Buddy Ben..."she" was "engaged" to Orchi.

Subsequently...a reasonably handsome amount of "dowry" was negotiated...
finalized & paid.

The "Fat Lady" is Orchi's for keeps...
It has...

S/NOs. 9,46x,xxx ~ circa. 1985
Rolex Cal. 3085 movement is fit & sharp...
Original factory Oyster case body...that is still
very attractive & sexy...
She remains probably...to be UnTouched or brutalized by machines...
She has only been carefully Hand Polished...as not to harm
any of the original Rolex factory bevel edges of her sexy case body...
perhaps to get rid of some accumulated scratches/wrinkles...of her
age of 24 years or so...
But the same cannot be said about her dial face...
for she has developed the natural "crazed webbings" which is...
synonymous with the Rolex original "vintage" flaws...
& few minor scares that CANNOT be treated even by the most
genius of any watchmakers that Orchi knows...at present.
Nonetheless...neither has Orchi seen or known of any other 16760 GMT II "Fat Lady"
which has the near perfect copper-toned Patina on her markers & hands...
She has its original factory dressing of 78360 & 501 End Links Oyster bracelet.
No marriage or divorce papers though...

Update: Rolex Ref 16760 GMT Master II "FATLady"..Now with New Replacement Bezel Insert by RSC..

2009-01-09T08:45:00.000-08:00

Err...less than 2 months since November 2008 when Orchi posted the New
Addition of a Ref 16760 GMT Master II dubbed as the...
"FATLady" watch...in HERE...Orchi received a call from RSC KL...that
the New Replacement Bezel Insert for the watch has just arrived...

After sending the watch back to RSC KL for fitting of the New Replacement
Bezel Insert...here are the lovely original end result...as compared with
the Old one...which was found to be an aftermarket bezel insert...NOT by
Rolex...when the watch was 1st delivered to Orchi...

BEFORE:

AFTER RSC'S BEZEL INSERT REPLACEMENT JOB:

Hoping to get this Rolex Ref 1675 GMT Master Pointy Crown Guards in the New Year 2009..soon.

2008-12-30T00:37:00.000-08:00

Err...here's also looking forward to getting more of
FINE pieces of Vintage Rolex watches...
in the New Year 2009...especially during the
extreme challenging economic Tsumani that the
21st Century World is experiencing...currently.

More details would be posted on this RARE Rolex Ref 1675 GMT Master
with so called Pointy Crown Guards or PCG...but
without...the following features which would soon follow
hopefully once Orchi is able to find the suitable
replacements for...

1. the 1st Generation Gilt Dial that's supposed to have
Outer Chapter Ring or Minute Track...for which many did
NOT even know that such Dial even existed before.

2. the small arrow 24 hour hand...which is prerequisite to
the early Vintage GMT Master watches during the 50s & early 60s...

Here are the brief pictures taken on this FINE
specimen...

2008/2009 Seasons Greetings to ALL Rolex Enthusiasts...with this Rolex Ref 16660 Sea-Dweller...

2008-12-24T20:37:00.000-08:00

Err...here's expressing deepest gratitude to all readers of
Orchi's Blog...in the soon to past year 2008.

Ever since Orchi started out to collect Vintage Rolex sport
watches...Orchi had always wanted a Triple Six 16660 Sea-Dweller.

During this 2008 year end festive occasions...Orchi shall be
wearing the latest addition of the collection recently obtained
thanks to Buddy Ben of NBTimes of Hong Kong.

Ref 16660 Rolex Sea-Dweller
9.4 million series, Circa ~ 1986
Automatic Cal. Movement 3035 with QuickSet Date
Sapphire crystal
Non-Repolished Mid Oyster Case & Bezel
c/w ALL correct Dial/Hands...
& Tritium WG surround hour markers in aged Patina
conditions like Creamed Coffee...
Helium Escape Valve
93160/592 Triple lock bracelet assembly
Original Rolex COSC Certificate.
Watch is in FINE overall conditions.

Rolex Ref 16760 GMT Master II No "DATE" - FATLady(New addition)

2008-11-07T21:48:00.000-08:00

Err...this is a latest new addition of Rolex Ref 16760 GMT Master II
dubbed as FATLady which was purchased recently from Hess Fine Art of USA.

This earliest 1st Generation Rolex GMT II Ref 16760 is RARE due to its
specific feature on Dial or the lack of it that makes it very rare n unique...
without the plot "DATE" after "OYSTER PERPETUAL"...hence also dubbed as...
err..."Rolex Fat Lady with No DATE"...LOL.

1st Up...with the exception of the watch being found to have
an aftermarket generic Bezel Insert...the rest of the watch has been
thoroughly checked out fine...

A couple of days ago...Orchi has ordered a new original replacement bezel..
n it should arrive within 2 months time...from RSC.

Here are some initial scans taken on the watch...
More details to follow...

Rolex Ref 16750 GMT Master - Transitional(photo session)

2008-11-07T06:33:00.000-08:00

Err...Orchi was on work duty...out all day driving as usual
to get from places to places...since early morning till late afternoon.

The difference this time...Orchi was wearing a Rolex 16750 GMT Master
which is of 8.65 million series with Glossy WG Surround Tritium markers & Hands...
78360 Oyster bracelet n 580 Endlinks...
(obtained recently from Buddy Greg Gibson of Roswell, GA who even gave granted
Orchi with a good USD400 discount on the watch from its original selling price)...
n Orchi brought along the camera...to take some wrist shots of the
watch...

Just not forgetting to mention words of thanks to Buddy Nicolas of Argentina
as well...for sending Orchi what is considered to be a near perfect set of
original aged hands for the watch.

Here are the scans taken in various time of the whole day...

Rolex Ref 16760 GMT Master II...

2008-10-18T09:27:00.000-07:00

Err...here's the Ref 16760 GMT Master II or dubbed as
the "Fatlady or Sophia Loren" by collectors...
due to its thicker than usual Oyster Case which was purchased from Buddy Greg Gibson of Roswell USA...

This Ref 16760 GMT Master II features the extra 1mm thicker Oyster Case
n it comes with RSC Service paper.
9,622,xxx Series with a Service Replacement Luminova Dial marked
"GMT Master 11" instead of "II" as normally found in most
1st generation GMT Master II...
Matching Luminova Hands...
Case has since been Re-polished before...
Cal. 3085 movement with QuickSet Date.
c/w matching "78360" Oyster Bracelet n "580" End Links in good order.
Watch is authenticated n keeping excellent time.
In fine conditions.

UPDATE: New Additions...

2008-10-03T20:14:00.000-07:00

Err...as much as Orchi would like to keep this Blog updated with the
latest new additions n happenings...Orchi shall try best to post the
relevant watches as soon as possible...

Amongst the new arrivals are...

1. Ref 16760 GMT Master II or dubbed as "FATLady" by avid collectors...purchased
from Buddy Greg Gibson aka Gibby of VRF...arrived in safe & good order.

2. Ref 16750 GMT Master in "R" Series...which is found locally n thought to
be the last of the Plastic crystal GMT Master production by Rolex...found locally.

3. Ref 16760 GMT Master II "FATLady"...purchased from Hess Fine Art, Inc., which
is being shipped by UPS...coming soon hopefully in safe n good order as well.

4. Ref 16750 GMT Master in "8.6 million" series...purchased from Buddy Greg Gibson
aka Gibby of VRF as well...arrived in safe order.

5. Ref 16660 Transitional Sea-Dweller...committed to Buddy Ben of VRF...which is
expected to be finalized within early next 2nd week of October...

Craze on Rolex Dials & Crazed Dials...

2008-09-04T05:54:00.000-07:00

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Rolex Ref 1680 RED Submariner...(safely locked in safe)

2008-07-30T09:13:00.000-07:00

Err...once again...beginner's luck must be on Orchi's side.

This would be one in a million chance of getting...the Original
Tritium Pearl replacement from RSC for the RED Submariner...

Here are the final pictures of the completed watch after having
been sent to RSC KL...for double authenticity checks & replacement
of the missing Tritium pearl on its bezel insert...

Rolex Ref: 1680 RED Submariner 3.18x,xxx Series.

2008-07-27T00:39:00.000-07:00

Err...here's the additional pictures taken on the RED Submariner after it has been thoroughly checked...cleaned & having its crystal re-polished by hand before sending it to RSC KL for double reassurance of its authenticity & hopefully get the much needed replacement of the Tritium pearl on its bezel insert.

The later pictures would illustrate the watch after Orchi received it back from RSC KL...soon to be posted.

Hopefully soon also...Orchi would find the complete set of correct box...accessories n literatures for this STUNNING example of 1680 RED Submariner...

Rolex Ref 1680 RED Submariner

2008-07-20T08:38:00.000-07:00

Err...since Orchi started out on collecting vintage Rolex watches...it has been somewhat of a dream to get amongst others...a Rolex thoroughbred Ref 1680 RED Submariner...

Here it is the stunning ALL original Ref 1680 RED Submariner which was found of
all places in the world...in Malaysian own shores.

Ref 1680 RED Submariner
Serial nos. 3,184,xxx
Circa II.1971
with Cal.1570 movement, Non-hacking
c/w All correct 9315 folded-links bracelet & 380 endlinks
Watch is in Superb n Excellent conditions

Here are some of the pictures taken whilst the RED Submariner was
being checked & authenticated.

Orchi is a happy man...with more pictures to be posted asap...

Journey as an eBayer...

2008-07-20T07:14:00.000-07:00

Err...sometime in March 2008...Orchi embarks on a journey in attempts to participate
in buying n selling in eBay auctions worldwide...

Since then Orchi has successfully purchased some of the nicest Rolex collectible items...such as Watches...Dials...Bezel inserts...Boxes & other accessories from
quite a few eBay Sellers with whom Orchi has made new friends with amongst them.

All in all...the buying from eBay auctions has been a pleasant journey to say the least.

Soon...after a few attempts at posting some of the watches that Orchi has collected over the years for sale...in few eBay listings...Orchi has managed to sell a couple of watches(IWC Ref 3537 Automatic Alarm / Ref 16013 DateJust) to a very friendly Malaysian collector in Petaling Jaya...n the
the Ref 1500 Oyster Perpetual Date ...to the winning bidder Nils Carsten of Germany.

Nevertheless...one of the main reasons how Orchi has faced with some hurdles in eBay when it comes to selling...is the fact that Orchi can't accept Paypal as the payment option despite of it being one of eBay's new policy for new registered Sellers must have verified Paypal account for which Orchi has since been successfully registered with & verified by eBay n Paypal...after completing a lengthy process of communication n sending certified documents as provenance of identity...contact address & financial credibility...etc etc.

However...there is a constraint by the Credit Card Issuers here in Malaysia...that as a Credit Card user...Orchi won't be able to withdraw funds out from the credit card account should there be any credit payment from Paypal upon payments by winning bidders whom would choose to pay with Paypal to begin with...

Hence...Orchi has had to make it very clear in all of Orchi's eBay listings of watches or items for auctions...that Orchi won't be able to accept payments by Paypal from the would be winning bidders in eBay.

Which then bring Orchi to the situation like in the case of the Ref 1500 which was sold to Nils Carsten of Germany...where initially he too paid by Paypal...but Orchi had to convince him to withdraw the Paypal payment...n have him paid for the watch by bank to bank wire transfer instead.

Orchi must say that buddy Nils Carsten is one very understanding gentleman...whom had given his fullest cooperation to the resolve the payment issue faced at the time...

Eventually the Ref 1500 was shipped to him in Germany successfully after receipt of his payment fund...n he had granted Orchi with one of the best feedback anyone could ask for from such a transaction in eBay...which goes like this...

"Positive feedback rating alles fei n gelaufen perfekter ebayer
Buyer: carstennils ( 119 [Feedback score is 100 to 499] ) May-16-08 17:37
Rolex Vintage Ref 1500 Oyster Perpetual DATE Original!! (#270231382807) US $1,850.00" ...which Orchi believes he meant to say..."Great transaction with perfect eBay Seller"

or something like that...

Again buddy Nils Carsten of Germany...thank you very much!

So as Orchi thread along in the challenging journey in eBay...Orchi hopes to post more updates in this blog...as frequent as possible...

Latest update on Ref 6542 GMT Master with no crown guard...

2008-07-04T20:01:00.000-07:00

Err...this would be a latest update on the Ref 6542 GMT Master with No Crown Guard...

Thanks to buddy Frank Meeske of Germany from whom Orchi obtained the correct 7206 riveted bracelet with 80 endlinks...& buddy Nicolas Abuaf of Argentina from whom Orchi obtained the correct 24hr small arrow hand...Orchi managed to restore the 6542 to this its current stage...

It's interesting to see the difference between the incorrect 24hr small arrow hand...vs the correct ones.(the last picture showing comparison with the old corroded 24hr hand that came with the watch initially)

What's lacking now would be to find the correct set of Gilt Hands for the watch...

More Updates soon...hopefully!

2008-07-03T11:45:00.000-07:00

Err...hopefully soon Orchi would be able to get around with some free
time to post a couple more entries on the most recent purchases...of late
between May to June 2008 for the following Rolex watches n parts...
but in no particular order...

1. Ref 16613 Submariner K Series 2Tone 18K/SS...
2. Ref 16600 Sea-Dweller A Series with "SWISS" Luminova Dial..
3. Ref 16600 Sea-Dweller T Series with "SWISS-T<25" Tritium Dial...
4. Ref 1680 RED Submariner, 3,18x,xxx series, "ft" 1st Dial...
Ft 1st...
5. Few Crazed or "SpiderWeb" Gloss Dials for 16750/16660/16600/16800/168000...
6. Most beautiful Matte dials for 1675 n 16750...
7. 7206/80 riveted bracelet for 6542 GMT...
8. Mini 24hr hand(small arrow) for 6542 GMT...
9. n few vintage boxes/accessories as well...

Rolex Ref 16800 Submariner Transitional with Gloss Tritium Dial

2008-06-09T07:12:00.000-07:00

Err...here's announcing the latest arrival of this Ref 16800 Submariner Transitional Model with Gloss Tritium Dial...

9,46x,xxx Series
Watch was recently sent by its previous
gentleman owner Mr. Greg Gibson, to RSC NYC
for servicing & replacement of parts
listed in the attached service invoice
from RSC NYC, before it was shipped to
Orchi.

Thus the watch arrived safely with the full set
of RSC paperworks & service box/accessoris.

Rolex Ref 168000 Transitional Submariner...

2008-05-18T22:19:00.000-07:00

Err...here are more pictures taken on this RARE Ref 168000 Transitional Submariner...

Some of these pictures yield...a surprising discovery especially on its...stunningly dial that has developed the peculiar aging effects...which can ONLY be found distinctively on these type of Genuine Rolex WG surround Tritium Glossy Dial...

Orchi would like to believe that...each of this typical Glossy Dial has its own aging characteristics...which would have its own very unique pattern identity...n NEVER be the same with another pieces of Glossy Dial that would have the different aging effects.

It is also an additional 110% assurance of authenticity n originality of such Rolex's origin...

Rolex Ref 168000 Submariner Transitional model...RARE Find!!!

2008-05-18T21:29:00.000-07:00

Err...of late Orchi has been rather busy with few purchases of more genuine Rolex vintage sports watches...parts & accessories...which are highly collectible...both in the Vintage Rolex Forum as well as from eBay...

Regret not having enough time to update this blog with the relevant entries...which amongst others are...

This Rolex Ref 168000 Transitional Submariner, R Series,
a very RARE find indeed in superb overall conditions...
having had a full service history in RSC NYC...
It arrived after having it sent to RSC NYC for complete servicing...without any RE-Polishing works done to it this time...

THIS ROLEX REF 168000 "R" Series IS BELIEVED TO BE PRODUCED BY ROLEX...FOR A VERY BRIEF PRODUCTION OF 7 TO 9 MONTHS...DURING ITS TRANSITIONAL PERIOD...MAKING IT ONE OF THE RAREST ROLEX SPORT MODELS...TODATE.

The only difference in the watch characteristics as compared with its predecessor Ref 16800 Submariner...n latter Ref 16610 Submariner...would be attributed to Rolex having produced the Ref 168000 Submariner's case believed to be from between...the late 9 million Series to "R" Series...in Stainless Steel Grade 904 construction instead of Grade 316 Steel for its predecessor Submariner...

WG surround Tritium Markers/Hands on Glossy Dial,
Cal.3035 Chronometer movement(similar to Ref 16800)
Quick-Set Date,
Sapphire crystal
Bracelet # 93150, EndLinks # 593

More details n pictures to follow in the next entries...

Rolex Ref 6542 GMT Master...(In Transition 2)

2008-03-26T21:58:00.000-07:00

Err buddies...after ONE year or so...n months of tiring searches...which was seemingly endless...Orchi almost gave up hopes.

At some point later on...Orchi had thought it would be near impossible that Orchi would ever find the complete n original bezel assembly for a Rolex Ref 6542...until Orchi stumbled upon the Vintage Rolex Forum(VRF)...from a tip off by...Buddy Mike at TRF...in here.

Subsequently Orchi posted an Ad in VRF...to look for the complete original bezel assembly for this Rolex Ref 6542...A new hope was growing.

Shortly after that...Orchi received a surprising email from Mr. John Buckley a.k.a Tuscoanyrose...responding to Orchi's Ad in VRF...claiming that HE has got exactly the right Original Rolex Service Replacement parts which Orchi has been looking for...all the long months.

Orchi was in shock...n nearly fell off the coconut tree...after having read the offer price from Mr. John Buckley a.k.a Tuscanyrose...or as HE is widely known in VRF simply by the initial JB...He was then a total stranger to Orchi.

After a couple of email exchanges in betweens...Orchi had fired no less than 1 DOZEN questions to JB...which included...questioning his credentials n the authenticity of the items which he had offered to sell.

Immediately after...Orchi also fired no less than 2 threads in VRF...n TRF asking of the same.

Subsequently...from all the dozens of right n assuring feedbacks of many kind folks in VRF...as well as in TRF who came to Orchi's assistance at the time of urgent need...n there after a couple more exchanges of emails with JB...Orchi made the calculated decisions to deal with JB who was still very much a stranger to Orchi...at that point in time...for the purchase of the relevant items.

Quite swiftly when JB received the TT payment in full from Orchi in Malaysia...JB shipped out the items with full insurance cover...without any delays whatsoever...by FEDEX.

At ALL times...Mr. John Buckley has been very attentive to Orchi's dozens of concerns n questions...He was very honest in all his opinions...He was very willing to share his knowledge...He has also been very considerate of Orchi's worries...n most importantly he was very patient n accommodating to Orchi's constant ranting...

Well folks...these here are the pictures of the assembled Rolex Ref 6542 GMT Master...the images should tell the thousand words...
n a thousand of thanks to TRF...n YOU Buddy Mike!...

...n to Mr. John Buckley a.k.a Tuscanyrose...of NYC...the results are stunning n well rewarding.

Rolex Ref 6542 GMT Master...(In Transition)

2008-03-26T21:52:00.000-07:00

Err...from HERE...Over the course of past few months...a fortnight or so ago...Orchi took a detour...to an unfamiliar territory for an adventurous journey...in search of the new resources...to find the complete n original bezel assembly...which was missing from this vintage Rolex watch...for well over ONE year since.

Rolex Ref 6542 GMT Master...1st Generation Non Crown Guard.
Made IV quarter production in 1956
Cal. 1030 signed chronometer movement
Gilt Dial "Oyster-Perpetual Officially Certified Chronometer"
marked "SWISS"
Roulette Dates...(Odd/Even dates in Black & Red).

To be continued...Right here in Part 2.

Rolex Ref 16800 Transitional Submariner...(Back in Transition)

2008-03-26T21:38:00.000-07:00

Err...from HERE...the next story involved Orchi having had to deal with lots of regular headaches which had Orchi almost depleted the stocks of Aspirins...in the nearby neighbourhood where Orchi lives...

It began when this Submariner...had apparently lost its navigational bearings...n probably during its highly classified mission...n undisclosed undersea voyage in the unknown n treacherous waters around to the Malaysian shores...it made it to shore next to the beach where Orchi lives...amidst densed plantation of coconut trees.

On one breezy morning...the Old coconut sap tapper...stumbled upon it...n Orchi was immediately summoned to be with him...so he could educate Orchi on his lucky discovery.

As it turns out...the Old coconut sap tapper...refers to it as one of the so called Transitional Submariners Ref 16800 which was Introduced by Rolex from around Circa 1979 to 1988...or so.

He went further to educate Orchi that...from 1985 to 1989...Rolex introduced the Gloss Tritium dial with WG surround markers for Ref 16800...which was before another Transitional Ref 168000 was introduced for only 9 months...until 1989 or so...then he said..."the rest is history...of the Transitional Rolex Submariners"

Immediately after that...he said Rolex released the prior model of Ref 16610 Submariner in 1989 or so...with Cal. 3135 movement...still having the Gloss Tritium dial n WG surround markers...until late 1999 or something like that...prior to the change to Luminova Dial on ALL Rolex models produced from the year 2000 onwards...

This Ref 16800 Transitional Submariner...has:-

Serial Prefix 7,42x,xxx
Circa 1982,
Cal. 3035 movement Automatic,
with Quickset Date
Depth rating 1000ft=300m
Uni-directional turning bezel
Sapphire Crystal
Oyster Case with Triple lock crown n crown guards.

But having all that said thus far...the story hasn't ended there as yet...n instead...it would just be the beginning only...for another story still to be told.

The Old coconut sap tapper would then educate Orchi that...the Original correct dial for this watch should be Matte dial without the WG surround Tritium hour markers...instead.

He would also insist that...the prior commander of this Submariner must have gone mad...n had ordered the Original Matte Dial...to be changed by RSC(Royal Submarine Corp?) to replace the Dial...which would come with the later version of Gloss dial n hands with WG surround markers...instead also.

"So how now...???" Orchi has asked the Old coconut sap tapper...

n then he whispered softly.."Mmmm...that is ALL you would learn from me this time Orchi...!"

"The rest is up to you...from now..."

Err buddies...ever since then...Orchi has been getting this constant headaches...to get this once Transitional Submariner...in transition again...back to its Original form hopefully...

n FINALLY here are the results of Orchi's adventurous journey...

BEFORE:
Arrival of the Matte Dial:
Examination of the Matte Dial Prints:
ASSEMBLY with Tender Loving Care:
Putting the 168000 thru the Test Bench:
Here are the Final Reward & Results:

Rolex Ref 16800 Oyster Perpetual Date - Submariner

2008-03-01T04:00:00.001-08:00

Rolex Ref 16800 Oyster Perpetual Date - Submariner

Here's one so called Transitional Submariner,
Introduced by Rolex from around Circa 1979 to 1988
from 1985 to 1989, Rolex introduced the Gloss Tritium dial
with WG surround markers for Ref 16800,
before another Transitional Ref 168000 was introduced for
only 9 months, until 1989, which is
prior to the release of the Ref 16610 in 1989,
both with Cal. 3135 movement, n Gloss Tritium dial n
WG surround markers

Serial Prefix 7,42x,xxx
Circa 1982,
Cal. 3035 movement Automatic,
with Quickset Date
Depth rating 1000ft=300m
Uni-directional turning bezel
Sapphire Crystal
Oyster Case with Triple lock crown n crown guards,
Original correct dial for this watch should be Matte dial
without the WG surround Tritium hour markers,
The prior owner must have had it changed by RSC to replace
it with the later version of Gloss dial n hands with WG surround markers

The watch is in fine conditions and running accurately.

For Sale: Rolex Ref 16700 GMT Master - Updated Gallery

2008-01-14T17:27:00.000-08:00

Err...here's an updated pics gallery of the Rolex Ref 16700 GMT Master - Transitional

More details n pics in here...

Update after 6 days of wearing the Rolex 2T Daytona 16523

2008-01-12T04:29:00.000-08:00

Err...after 6 days of traveling...while wearing this Rolex Ref 16523 2T Daytona with Zenith Movement...Orchi rechecked the timing of the watch.

It's found to be running very consistently faster by averaging +3 seconds each day with all chronograph functions working all along.

UPDATED PICTURES:-

Additional pictures are included showing various wrist shots & closeups...with its
Original band 78393 & 403B endlinks fitted to the watch.

Also included are some pictures of the complete watch package...

Further reference of the life cycle of 16520 Daytona.

For Sale: Rolex Ref 16700 GMT Master

2008-01-12T02:03:00.000-08:00

Err...here's the Rolex GMT Master that is for sale, n this model of GMT is getting harder to find in such fine conditions.

Rolex Ref 16700 GMT Master - Hard to find
Circa 1989~1999 Transitional SS only GMT model
Movement Cal. 3175 Automatic, Quick Set Date
SS Case series "U" dated back to 1997
Tritium "SWISS T-<25" marked Dial n Hands.
Hour hand not independently adjustable
SS case/hands/dial/oyster bracelet are in ALL untouched conditions
Visible scratches, but with no hard dents.
Oyster bracelet has not been soaked n cleaned yet
Bracelet has visible scratches, n has signs of normal wear.
Sapphire crystal needs change(visible scratches n minor chipped)
Signed Case n Movement
Backcase cover indicates it was last serviced by
Rolex service centre in 2004
In FINE condition
Without box n papers.

The watch has been authenticated, n comes with 1 Year Limited Service Warranty extended by a trusted watchsmith.

Rolex Ref 15000 Oyster Perpetual Date

2008-01-12T01:48:00.000-08:00

Err...here's one of the 2 Rolexes that Orchi came across today which are available for sale.

Rolex Ref 15000 Oyster Perpetual Date - Hard to find
Circa 1975~, Transitional
Movement Cal. 3035 Automatic - Quick Set Date.
SS Case/Dial/Hands/Oyster bracelet are original Rolex
RSC service Replacement Case serial nos. 4433XXX
Smooth bezel, Acrylic Crystal
Signed Case n Movement
Visible scratches on Case/Bezel/Crystal
In Fine condition, Authenticated
Without box n but with RSC service paper.

The asking price for this watch is USD2,100 subject to FOREX changes, if any.

The watch has a 1 Year Limited Service Warranty by a trusted watchsmith.

Rolex Ref 16523 Oyster Daytona Cosmograph - Zenith

2008-01-07T07:24:00.000-08:00

Err...here's Orchi's 1st Rolex Ref 16523 Daytona Cosmograph with Zenith 400 El Primero movement in 2 Tone 18K Gold/SS case n Oyster bracelet.

After having torn between 2 Daytonas for the past couple of days...Orchi were caught in between 3 Daytonas instead...when Orchi was again offered with the 3rd Daytona which is 2T with a Mysterious Shinny Black dial + Gold Chrono counters + Gold Hands n Markers.

So finally...Orchi decided on this Pre-owned "U" Series 2 Tone Daytona after having the watch authenticated late this afternoon.

Circa 1988~2000
Produced in 1999 "U" series
Mark V Luminova Dials(on Markers/Hands)
as opposed to previous Dials produced with Tritium
"SWISS MADE" at 6 O'clock position
This Dial feature is said to RARE.

This watch came with papers in an Old RED Rolex President box. The luminous markers/hands still glow in the dark.

The mysteriously shinny black dial with Gold borders n luminous marker(so called Mark V)...is still spotless...signed "Swiss Made"(without 2 "T") on the 6 o'clock position.

All hands on the centre of dial n chrono counters...are fine.

Although this watch has been thru some rough n tumble along the way with the previous owner...it is however still in ALL original conditions.

The inside of caseback is signed 16500...n indicated that the watch was last serviced in 2005...at the back it would seem to have been engraved with previous "personal identity"...but it could be easily buffed out without any problem.

There are visible dings n scratches all over the 18K Gold bezel as if it had been heavily worn by its previous owner who probably drove it around auto test tracks...or took it for regular swimming or scuba diving trips.

The Oyster bracelet has the same amount of visible scratches on the 18K Gold centre links...but it's amazingly still tight n straight. As Orchi is posting this...it is now being soaked in mild detergent so as to get rid of some dirt which is accumulated on the Oyster links.

The signed Cal.4030 Movement(Zenith 400 El Primero)that oscillates at 28,800 ath/hr(alternation per hour) is absolutely breathtaking when admired in close details.

This Zenith Movement is reputed to have a power reserve of 54hours.

When is a Rolex useless?

2008-01-06T08:26:00.000-08:00

Err...Orchi was once asked of this question...n it got Orchi wondering when would all of Orchi's Rolexes be useless...

Orchi's previous best guess would be when the Rolex or any brand of watches for that matter...are NOT needed to tell time reliably...accurately...n conveniently in style to say the least.

Then Orchi wonders again...in what other circumstances...would a Rolex...or any watch for that matter...be possibly useless.

Perhaps that could only be when Orchi is back at home...or when Orchi has fallen asleep...hahaahaaaaaa!

n come to think of it...even an old vintage genuine Rolex might still be worth more than the price of gold...on weight per weight basis.

Last but not least...worldwide pawn shops would easily accept a genuine Rolex to be used as collateral...as compared with any other brand of watches.

Here's the much sought after 50 year old but still highly reliable Kienzle(Germany made) wall clock that Orchi keeps at home along with a Hemle(Germany)...n Smiths Enfield(England) mantle clocks(equally as old)...that could outperform any watches under the same circumstances...n most probably be the only timekeeping device to render Orchi's Rolexes...useless.

The Kienzle wall clock n the other mantle clocks would each chime dependably on every 15th minutes of the hour...n every hours of the day or night...with beautiful n distinct melody...within Orchi's home.

Rolex Ref 116520 Daytona Cosmograph

2008-01-05T07:54:00.000-08:00

Err...here's the other legendary Rolex watch that's being offered to Orchi today. IT's All Brand New Rolex Ref 116520 Daytona Cosmograph...

Rolex Ref 116520 Oyster Daytona Cosmograph
Unworn, Brand New
ALL Original credentials n factory package.
SS Case/Oyster Bracelet/White Dial

Rolex Ref 16523 Daytona Cosmograph

2008-01-05T01:38:00.000-08:00

Err...finally Orchi gets to feature NOT one but two of the legendary Rolex Oyster Daytona Cosmograph watches that were offered to Orchi today.

Rolex Ref 16523 Oyster Daytona Cosmograph
Circa 1988~2000, Movement Cal. 4030(Zenith)
"U" series, Gold Dial/Black Chrono counters
2 Tone 18K Gold Bezel(400uph)/Crown/
SS Case with 18K Gold Chrono Buttons
2 Tone 18K Gold Oyster Bracelet
Sapphire crystal
polished centre links
Almost No visible scratches
Except with scratches on the backcase cover
due to carelessness when it was previously opened
100% All Original c/w papers
In FINE conditions,
Authenticated, keeping accurate time.

Rolex Ref 116710 Oyster GMT Master II with Ceremic Bezel

2007-12-29T06:29:00.000-08:00

Err...finally today after all the hype by Rolex watch enthusiasts recently after Basel 2007...Orchi managed to get a hold of the 50th Anniversary Edition All Brand NEW Oyster GMT Master II with Ceramic Bezel.

Apart from the existing Rolex GMT Master Ref 6542...Ref 1675...n Ref 1675 2T 18K...this GMT Master II is the ONLY new Rolex watch ever featured in here.

Since the watch is absolutely Brand New n stunning...despite the temptation is HIGH to put the stunning watch on Orchi's wrist...Orchi doesn't think Orchi should wear it for quite some time to come.

Orchi would just keep it as it is...Brand New.

Latest M series SS case model ref 116710 LN
Movement Cal.3186, Automatic
Triple Lock Crown
Green 24hr hand
Ceramic 24hr Bezel
c/w ALL Original papers, decor, box n accessories
Unworn Brand NEW